Politics

[jessercas]

I just wanted to say that Akin didn't "mis-speak" and he wasn't taken out of context.  He legitimately thought that women who were truly raped had biological defenses to keep them from getting pregnant.
He admitted in an interview with Sean Hannity that he had been misinformed and after every one got all angry he had been educated to the truth.  The scary thing is that he truly believed that women had some mystical Wizard of Oz gatekeeper up in their uterus to defend against rape sperm.  I am proud of him for apologizing, and learning the truth and admitting that he was completely and utterly wrong. It doesn't change the fact that there are many people out their who agree or believe his original statement and are trying to pass legislation on women's health benefits or to control my uterus which they clearly know nothing about.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/hannity-rocks-akin-interview-mediology-aug-21/2012/08/21/7a3adfe2-eb37-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_blog.html

[Broin]

Claaisc example between ignorance and stupidity.....

He was ignorant....

I would call those trashing him for one ignorant coment while wilfully ignoring true dispecable behavior, as stupid

[jessercas]

Sooooooo, allowing ignorant people to run for high level positions and make uneducated legislative decisions that impact the health benefits of every woman in the United States qualify as stupid? (While also willfully ignoring true despicable behavior in both parties I might add)

[Phienyx]

One thing ALL humans have in common is a penchant for ignorant and despicable behavior.  You cannot judge an entire group of people based on the actions of a few idiots.  (I can deal with the merely ignorant because they can be corrected and educated.  Its the willfully ignorant that refuse to change even when presented with the correct information that I cannot tolerate.) If you want to get past the childish mud slinging and into a discussion that matters, you should look at the core beliefs of a group.  What are the morals and standards they support?  What are their visions and goals? What are they about, over all?  Discuss those differences and their merits....or lack thereof.

Sometimes discussing politics ceases to be about the politics and becomes about getting distracted by relatively petty issues.  Much like when trying to have an internet discussion about which web browser is the best, but then some one starts ripping on someone's spelling and grammar.

[Subb]

I'm loving this thread so far; nice seeing people's different opinions.

[Broin]

Sooooooo, allowing ignorant people to run for high level positions and make uneducated legislative decisions that impact the health benefits of every woman in the United States qualify as stupid? (While also willfully ignoring true despicable behavior in both parties I might add)

There is a huge difference between ignorance and stupidty.... I'll explain it to you.

Ignorance means that you have little or lacking knowledge of a subject matter.  It does not mean that you do not have the ability or intellegience to understand...  Everyone has been ignorant in their lives about something or other... EVERYONE.  That does not make you a bad person or mean that your life and all your past and furture contributions are worthless and meaningless.  

Stupidty means that you lack the mental capability to gain any sembleance of understanding on a subject matter.  I place many people in this category because of their mentality on a subject which refuses to allow them to see anything other than what they choose to see...

So just because the guy was ignorant on what he said does not mean he is stupid like the people who are castagating him.

What happens all to often is that Dems attempt to blur the difference between an ignorant statement or someones ignorance on a subject and equate their ignorance with stupidty and lack of ability to be worthwhile.  

They try to make someone who may be ignorant out to be just plain stupid and therefore use that to dismiss them and their stand outright.  

I really do like your point though about allowing an ignorant person to run for a high level position and make undeducated legislative decisions.... I mean why didn't you just spell out the name of the one person who utterly and truley emodies that statement... OBAMA

And do not get me started on this crap about women's health and bullshit that is being thrown out there right now.  Cause if you do I'll tell you what it really is then you'll be really pissed at me.

[likwidtek]

The thing is, this guy Akin and Paul Ryan are co-sponsors on legislation about contraception, pregnancy and abortion.  See, if he were just some idiot who "mispoke" then that's one thing.  But these guys are self-proclaimed experts on the subject.  So much so, they want to create laws regarding this matter that impact every Man, Woman and Child living in the United States.

Ignorance, stupidity, retardation, misunderstanding... I don't care.  If you're going to try and make laws about a topic you damn well better know your shit.  Which obviously this guy doesn't.  

Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice shouldn't matter.  This is a guy who obviously didn't understand the subject matter in which he was attempting to legislate.  Make sense?

[Phienyx]

Ignorance, stupidity, retardation, misunderstanding... I don't care. If you're going to try and make laws about a topic you damn well better know your shit. Which obviously this guy doesn't.

Sounds like our current administration.  Add to that a blatant disregard for our Constitution, what this country stands for, what the people want..... you have a much bigger problem than ignorance,  stupidity, retardation or misunderstanding.  You have a calculated plan to disrupt and disable from within.  Classic Trojan Horse strategy.

[likwidtek]

Fully agree.  Both parties are doing this crap.  Neither give a crap about the Constitution.  Each side likes to quote it but they like to pick and choose.

It's funny that the Republicans who are so anti big government want Federal government to dictate if or when a woman can have an abortion.  Or buy birth control.  It's a state issue.  But the Republicans don't care about that.  Neither do the Democrats.  Each want giant blanket laws that sweep all states.

[Da6onet]

I have a solution for bad politicians!

Vote for someone else or run for office yourself :-)

[likwidtek]

lol choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_wjQtfhZQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=188s

[Longboard]

lol choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_wjQtfhZQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=188s

I had forgotten that George Carlin passed away 4 years ago...where does the time go?

[Phienyx]

The current administration is really neither Democratic or Republican.  It is something else entirely hiding behind the banner of democrat. This explains why nearly its entire agenda violates the Constitution and every move they make is one step closer to setting the stage for total control of EVERYTHING and EVERYONE.  I am not opposed to the government of the United States in the least.  I'm just saying, this is no longer truly the government of the United States of America where things were as simple as democrat or republican.  If you do not recognize this, you really need to wake up and look at the facts and not just what the media feeds you.  You've been being lulled to sleep over the last few decades.

Pay close attention to the analogy of the frog and the pot.  You cannot just throw a frog into a pot of boiling water.  He will jump out.  However, if you put him into a pot of cool water and slowly raise the temperature to the boiling point, he will allow himself to be boiled alive.  Now THAT is just downright retarded, ignorant, stupid and a misunderstanding that will cost you your freedom and probably your life.

[likwidtek]

We do not disagree

[Venlar]

I'm no big fan of Ron Paul but he got seriously screwed at the RNC. They changed the rules so He couldn't be officially nominated and so they could replace delegates loyal to him with delegates for Romney. Notice how the teleprompter says the Ayes have it while the No's are still voting.