Politics

[likwidtek]

You guys need to look up the definition of assault rifle.

[NoCry]

British army for 5 years. Got a good grasp of weapons in that time. Don't need a dictionary.

[Heironymus]

Anyway, am following this issue closely and hope that a solution is found, albeit I doubt a solution is possible as the genie is well and truly out of the bottle. In the meantime obviously my thoughts are with the community ripped apart by this, crazy person's act.

There is a very easy solution.. its called COMMON SENSE..
The problem is no one wants to think their precious little billy is mentally unstable and may need help.. I own guns and no.. I do not plan on giving mine up for any reason.. however. If I have a child and I think for even a second he could get around the safety and security that I employ to keep my guns secure and only accessible to myself then I would get rid of them. If I thought my teenage kid was unstable and might try to use a gun for harming another then I would get rid of them. I want to point out that my parents and most of my family are all in law enforcement. I grew up around guns everywhere.. I learned from very early they are not toys and you do not mess around with them. Why do people not teach this to their kids is beyond me.

[Lithium]

- Fully Automatic Firearms are not legal in the US.

- The 2nd amendment was designed with the thought in mind by some, Jefferson in particular, that the people should always have the power to overthrow the government if it were to become oppressive. It can be argued the government wants to ban guns for it's own safety.

- The same day of the shooting our president announced that his administration would not actively prosecute federal violation of the pot law. My question, how many children have been killed by potheads and ruined families? How about drunks? Malnutrition accounts for thousands of child deaths in this country as well.

- If you are convinced your children are not safe in America I'll gladly help with your immigration papers to China, Russia, or the likes.

- The sad state of mental institutionalization is the by-product of the last 60 years of villainization of mental hospitals. We live in a society where the mentally challenged must be integrated seamlessly into society. They must go to the same schools, work in the same businesses, and have the same control on life as you and I. We think this is a reality by pumping them full of medication that alters mood, personality, and makes them even worse when they decide not to take it. Like a wild animal you can train and tame but at the end of the day it's still a fucking lion that can bite your head off.

[Subb]

British army for 5 years. Got a good grasp of weapons in that time. Don't need a dictionary.

*Waves* British Commando here.

[Sared]

If anyone's interested, the NRA played a fun blame game yesterday, and ended up insisting that we have an armed guard at every single school.

[Broin]

If anyone's interested, the NRA played a fun blame game yesterday, and ended up insisting that we have an armed guard at every single school.

ROFLMAO.... Just the mere idea that the NRA is playing blame game is funny... I believe you have it backwards there Sared.

It is the NRA that is getting blame gamed on.... I didn't see the speech but I bet you can't find a qoute where the NRA INSISTED that armed guards be at every SINGLE school.

Don't make me come into this thread and educate you all again?  You know it never ends well...

[Longboard]

If anyone's interested, the NRA played a fun blame game yesterday, and ended up insisting that we have an armed guard at every single school.

ROFLMAO.... Just the mere idea that the NRA is playing blame game is funny... I believe you have it backwards there Sared.

It is the NRA that is getting blame gamed on.... I didn't see the speech but I bet you can't find a qoute where the NRA INSISTED that armed guards be at every SINGLE school.

Don't make me come into this thread and educate you all again?  You know it never ends well...

I personally would love to hear your views on guns.

[Sared]

ROFLMAO.... Just the mere idea that the NRA is playing blame game is funny... I believe you have it backwards there Sared.

It is the NRA that is getting blame gamed on.... I didn't see the speech but I bet you can't find a qoute where the NRA INSISTED that armed guards be at every SINGLE school.

Don't make me come into this thread and educate you all again?  You know it never ends well...

http://nraschoolshield.com/


No, you're not the only one that thinks it says 'code pinko' on the video preview.


The first three minutes is basic pre-amble filler, can skip if you want.
First protester shows up at 4:56 and holds up the speech until 6:03.

At ~8:30 is where the blame, both taken, and given, begins.

Second protester shows up at 11:22 and holds up the speech until 12:12.

14:08 "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

18:34: "...can't we afford to put a police officer in every single school?"

Verbatim.



To be clear, I have no issue with having cops in public schools. As a college student in Texas, I'm comfortable with the armed security guard on-campus. All I'm bitching about is his railing against the media and other entities as a foothold for his argument.


IMO, if the movie/video game industries, the media or the NRA were to say "You know what, we are a part of the issue..." they'd be quickly railroaded into oblivion. No one can admit partial blame without ALL of it landing squarely on their shoulders.


SURPRISE ASA HUTCHINSON AT THE END!

[Broin]

So why in the world would the NRA say they are part of the blame?  And you still didn't show me where they insisted that we put a cop in every school...

Oh and by the way the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun IS a good guy with a gun.  

Haven't heard a damn thing in the Media about the Portland Oregon Mall shooting have you.... Take a look at the story the outcome, what stopped it, and maybe you'll figure out why.

[Lithium]

[Broin]

[Tbone]

It's a mental health issue. A guy in China killed 20 kids in school with a knife the same week as Connecticut. I don't think having an armed guard in every school is the answer, as whose to say who the bad guy and good guy is? Put a mentally unstable rent-a-cop with a gun in an elementary school and then THAT becomes the problem.

[Lithium]

The children in China were not killed. The guy obviously didn't know how to use a knife.

[Broin]

Yes it is a mental health issue.  Here is what the issue is... Look back to the late Late 90's when Clinton was in office.... Specifically 95-96 of first term and 97-98 of second term.  We had large mental health facilities most of which he and his buddies shut down, because they were bad... MMMKay.  

Then all those in the institutions went into group homes because those were suppoused to be better... MMMkay.  

Those group homes were run by private companies and businesses.  When they went out of business or when someone became to much of a problem then those people in those homes had to go back to live with mom and dad or somewhere else... MMMkay.

The truth is we have people who are nuts who need to be locked away from the rest of society.  MMMMkay

Did bad things happen to people who lived in those facilities... Yes.... MMMkay

Are bad things happening to others now that those people are no longer kept in the facilities.... Yes... MMMkay

So you all decide which bad thing you would rather have happen.... MMMKay

And next time vote for someone whose gonna have the balls to make the hard decisions that are gonna keep most of us safe but are gonna allow a few others to suffer....

Mmmmkay


BECAUSE.....





THINK ABOUT IT.... MMMMKAY