Eternal Vigilance

[Manic Velocity]

You forgot to mention the most important part... The leader of Jen'jidai has the FA logo tattooed on the back of his neck!!

Old FA member? Or just a big fan?

Both.  He was a member for about a year or two.  He got the tat, and it was later decided that he wasn't a good fit for the group.

As for EV, they seem like a decent group.  I haven't interacted with any of them personally, but they conduct themselves rather similar to us.  It would be cool to team up with them from time to time.

[Fuse]

http://www.revans-legacy.com/vb/showthread.php?984-Greetings-from-Eternal-Vigilance

[Ash]

http://www.revans-legacy.com/vb/showthread.php?984-Greetings-from-Eternal-Vigilance

For those who care not to register on their forums, why don't you copy and paste what you want us to read.

[Fuse]

Didn't know it was needed.
It's Raeth of EV getting friendly with RL. Not an issue, as I think we're pretty friendly with them as well and it seems still RL.

Hello Revan's Legacy,

I wasn't exactly sure where to post this, so I figured this was the best spot.

First off let me introduce myself, I am Raeth, I have been playing MMO's for many years and have now been a member of Eternal Vigilance since September 2010.

I come to you today as an ambassador from our guild's Diplomacy Agency in the hopes of striking up some fun cross faction interaction. Eternal Vigilance is a republic aligned guild, however our philosophy is that the Jedi order is flawed and we will use whatever means necessary to ensure the safety of the republic. We are planning to be on some sort of PVP server, and do not shy away from RP.

I invite you all to enjoy our forums at http://www.evcitadel.com/home/

Pop by and say hello, thanks for your time and I look forward to a future with healthy competitive interaction between our two guilds.

Again, not pointing out anything bad with this, just an observation of them really branching out making contacts.

[Keeloth]

Interesting point of view they (EV) have there.

[Broin]

It appears that quite a bit of the old MXO people may end up in the same place.  This of course could be good... AND of course could be bad.

For right now I think it's not to bad of an idea to strike up some freindly relatinoships and rivalries with various guilds.

Keep your options open... Keep your intel flowing... and Keep an eye on everyone

[Keeloth]

I suppose it doesn't hurt to ask...does FA have any..."unfinished business" from MxO?  Any reds/guilds of reds that just couldn't handle getting ganked constantly and hold a non-friendly grudge?

[Da6onet]

Trucidos/Psy comes to mind along with any of the people who were banned for exploiting like Untouchable. Then there were individuals who were bitter because our teamwork could usually mess up their plans for world domination - an example that comes to my mind would be when reds would take over the main spawn point in Mara with 20+ people and there were only 3 of us online. Not enough to assault directly, but after a few people dropped from synchronized snipes they fled like bugs when you turn on the light (not assuming any of you live in unsanitary conditions, just using imagery).

Long ramble short, there were a handful of individuals, but not overall groups that truly despised us. I think the only people organized enough to still continue any form of dislike would be Morpheus'/Revan's Legacy, and they were the "good guys" in MxO. Most of that dislike came in my mind from competing interests. They wanted to be the best, most recognized Zion faction in the game, and felt that we were an impediment to their success. I kind of get the feeling now that because they won't be competing with us in that regard in SWTOR that they see us now as a novelty (like "oh, FA are red to us, that's cute).

[NoCry]

We always had a good gag with the dark evolution lot.

[Venlar]

It appears that quite a bit of the old MXO people may end up in the same place.  This of course could be good... AND of course could be bad.

For right now I think it's not to bad of an idea to strike up some freindly relatinoships and rivalries with various guilds.

Keep your options open... Keep your intel flowing... and Keep an eye on everyone

R.I.P. *shudders* They exploited and ended up getting banned from MXO. I don't think they are even around the MMO community anymore though.

[Tbone]

So I convinced Cordo Font to come on our TS to chat about their loose "alliance". Here's what I got...

-The agreement is only for Phase 2 and does not extend past that. They don't want any kind of council or super-alliance. Like us, they want the freedom to make their own choices.
-They want the pact to contain two Republics and two Imperials. So Republic would be FA and EV. Imperial would be Imperial Guard and whoever we decide on for the other Imperial.
-Roleplay with the Imperials would NOT lead to peace agreements...red is dead would remain in tact.
-They have a VERY similar play style and RP background as us. They are well rounded (PvP, RP, etc.) and are a secretive organization based on Coruscant that is getting a little bit more into the front lines for the timeline of the game. They also have around the same number of members and highly discourage trash talking and griefing.
-Picking them as a Phase 2 partner would mean we would need to pick the two Imperials as well, meaning we would have no room to choose guilds outside of the four person pact to make sure we are on the same server with. This is done to ensure that the four of us are on the same server. (David Bass commented that he would prefer guilds to do it this way. Chaining them lessens the chance of everyone ending up together).

Overall he left a pretty good impression. I got the idea that they are very similar to us and that we're not really going to find another group that's as close to the same page as us. Strategically I think it would benefit us to make sure we are on their server.

I made it clear that we aren't interested in an official alliance, and he said they weren't interested in something like that either. It's only about finding someone you want to make sure you are on the same server with.

So it's a tough decision...I'm leaning towards us going through with it, as I really don't think we're going to find a better fit to our Phase 2 linkage.

The good is that these guys are on the same wavelength as us. Not only are they mature gamers, but they're the same size as us and RP in kind of the same way. It saves us the trouble of having to find three guilds to link up with and guarantees that we'll have some friends when we get in. It's non-binding past Phase 2, so there's little commitment.

The bad is that we'll have to put our name on it. That a concession in and of itself. We won't have the freedom to pick and choose our other adversaries/allies  (we'll have to work with them on the fourth and the Imperial Guard has already been chosen). While there's nothing binding now, it could be a slippery slope landing us in some unwanted drama or alliance.

After talking to him, I'm actually leaning towards going with it. We really don't have any other strong candidates. There's the MxOers (Revan's Legacy, JoKerZ), but both of those guilds are only a handful of people, and it wouldn't surprise me if they switched to whatever server we ended up on anyway. If we DON'T do it, we run the risk of ending up on a server where no one really shares our ideals/mindset and we have an uphill battle of trying to create the environment we prefer to game in. At least this way, we have friends and foes that we know could make for some interesting gaming.

What do you guys think?

[Fuse]

I'm loving this idea - especially if they are so similar to us. They already have made a name for themselves, as we have, and they seem very active. Having allies (even if not "an alliance") with another strong guild when there is expected to be a much higher population could be a great thing. I'm thinking realistically how we can utilize eachother - not just in RP, but in active engagements. I'm thinking large scale raids/pvp cooperation.

What I don't want to see is it get lopsided. FA will be a name known on the server, but part of my goal will be to have FA the number one name - not number two and EV's friend. If we were to become known as the strongest two guilds on the server without an overwhelming advantage to EV, then I could see it as a great thing.

[Arawn]

I thought of the same "rivalry" Fuse spoke above... But seriously... (im new in FA so im ofcourse counting me out) You guys have experience making FA famous... We will just become number one guild... and EV MIGHT be FA's friend... (OK enough of looking down on em, they might be good players too)

On the other hand. Making sure we stick together with people like us... it just ensures that our server will have a strong RP community. Having sayd that, I vote for a go on the "Alliance", However! Take in mind I DO NOT approve of seeing them as Allies and so I don't really wanna be stuck with them once the game launches.

Oh I almost forget about this... It's really important to choose the enemies too... but the problem is... we don't really interact with any of em... so we don't really know how they behave, and if they are good for our server. It would be good to find a cool RP guild... And who knows, we might end up making cross-faction events thru the SWTOR forum

[Keeloth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnuflMuvSnw&hd=1

Got to say, these Imperial Guard have class.

It's good that they're not seeking to establish a Council of some kind, OOC or IC.  I say go with it.

[Ragnarok]

Check out Imperial Guard's website. They seem very professional.