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[Tecknik]

Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst and the rest of the original Spider-Man cast are no longer attached to Spider-Man 4.  

Sony is now talking about it being a reboot. They're making it about Peter's struggle through high school with super powers...

[Fuse]

*facepalm*

[Manic Velocity]

Sony is now talking about it being a reboot. They're making it about Peter's struggle through high school with super powers...

Seriously?  The "origins" thing has been done to death.  How many times do we need to see a superhero struggle to find their place with their new powers?

[Jeyk]

Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst and the rest of the original Spider-Man cast are no longer attached to Spider-Man 4.

It's over?  Thank God.

Sony is now talking about it being a reboot. They're making it about Peter's struggle through high school with super powers...

It's coming back?  God, no!

[Phienyx]

Hollywood is getting bored.  They can't even wait until the dust settles on one series before they do a reboot these days.  Although in the case of the Incredible Hulk, this was a good thing.

I'm just waiting for them to start releasing "Reality Movies".  "Jon and Kate Plus 8: The Revenge" anyone?

[Lithium]

Welcome back to America! It only took a year, but big government inevitably failed.

[Tbone]

Great, now we can go back to jacking each other off in one big circle jerk while the walls continue to crumble around us. Maybe we blocked major improvements to our current healthcare system, but at least we kept the dems from looking good!

I'm tired of it being so political at this point. Both sides agree there needs to be health care reform. The public option was taken out. Hell, almost everything that would "reform" health care was taken out, and yet the Republicans refuse to play ball because they know if Obama pushes through healthcare, it will be an instant legacy for his first term in office and give him a push forward for re-election.

If they thought the health care reform would fail, they'd let it pass and say "I told you so" so that they could come clean up the "mess" in three years.

And...Sarah Palin is a Fox News contributor. I don't know if that makes a bigger joke out of Fox News or the Republican Party. As if Fox News wasn't a big enough propaganda machine...

[Fuse]

You think wanting to stop this bill is about Obamas image? That is such an ignorant thing to say, and I'm surprised. Have you even read the bill? Tell me what parts you liked in it, and what parts in it you didn't. Why would the non-democrats let something bad for the country pass for pride?

How do you explain that the majority of the American people do not want this healthcare bill? (Latest poll reflects 38% Favor Health Care Plan, 56% Are Opposed - Just 18% of voters Strongly Favor the plan while 44% are Strongly Opposed) Do you think most of America is out to get Obama and make sure he isn't elected a second term? And if that is the case, isn't that the point of the Republic?

Who claims this is about making the dems look bad, or the reps look good? Nearly everyone I've talked to  (including libertarians, republican, independents, and even democrats) is getting sick of the party BS. So why are liberals still stuck on it?

T, when spewing stuff like that you should really back it up with some sources. Perhaps starting with where you get the idea that "the Republicans refuse to play ball because they know if Obama pushes through healthcare, it will be an instant legacy for his first term in office and give him a push forward for re-election." Why is it that despite being told over and over again the reasons, you still think it's about one man, a political party, racism, or God - as you alluded to in a post altering Broins words a couple pages back... Did you ever stop and think that maybe those independents and other conservative groups might actually believe this bill is bad for the PEOPLE?

By the way, I admittedly can not find the direct link to the stats, but Republicans are actually more pleased (perhaps I should say less dissatisfied) with this democratic congress than independents! I'll try and find that link tomorrow. EDIT: The stats I found were actually from a few months ago - currently, Congress has a %58 approval rate; %79 of rep, %32 of dem, and %68 of those not affiliated with a party dissaprove.

Not trying to be a pain, but I have a small feeling that I keep up on this stuff a bit more than the average person from as many views and sides as I can, yet nearly all of your political posts are pretty opposite from the facts I read and seem to be primarily opinion based. That's fine, but not logical in a debate, IMHO.



Then again, it is a randomness thread on a gaming based board. So, HEY LOOK OUT! A GUN!



Horrible string of shots for me, but my excuses was that it was at the end of a long shooting session and my hands were starting to shake. Here's some other targets from earlier... Ignore the "-09" I forgot we're in 2010 now. *facepalm*

7rnds at 7yards
10rnds at 10yards
10rnds at 5yards
17rnds at 5yards

[Da6onet]

I like my local NPR feed through WAMU. The guests they invite on the show are very knowledgeable and candid. I will paraphrase-On the issue of healthcare "reform:" The problem from the beginning, and it still lingers now, nobody can come up with a fair way to reduce the cost of insurance premiums. Regardless of what happens with the current bill, the cost of everything healthcare related is going upward at a rate faster than wages/company revenue can keep up with.

In my opinion, I see one of two things happening eventually:
1. Status quo on healthcare. In a decade or so related individual (read-out of take home pay) healthcare costs get so high, that a form of revolution occurs rather quickly in response (either that or another government bailout :-p)
2. Healthcare becomes an ongoing social program gets absorbed it into our multi-trillion dollar debt until step 1 occurs (read-when a sufficient % of take home pay is fucked with)

[Eroz]

@Fuse: Nice hat.

[NoCry]

@ fuse nice hat

Polls can show you whatever you want (or indeed need) to believe though can they not? Also, what about this? or stories like it?

[url]http://www.theweek.com/article/index/104657/Democrats_vs_Rasmussen_polls

Not being from your neck of the woods I do not grasp (or indeed pay that much attention to) the intricacies of what obama et al are trying to achieve.

My point is not so much who is wrong or right, rather the way to attack any argument must be by argument and fact as opposed to sources of questionable worth?

[NoCry]

@ fuse nice hat

Polls can show you whatever you want (or indeed need) to believe though can they not? Also, what about this? or stories like it?

[url]http://www.theweek.com/article/index/104657/Democrats_vs_Rasmussen_polls

Not being from your neck of the woods I do not grasp (or indeed pay that much attention to) the intricacies of what obama et al are trying to achieve.

My point is not so much who is wrong or right, rather the way to attack any argument must be by argument and fact as opposed to sources of questionable worth?

[Fuse]

Polls can show you whatever you want (or indeed need) to believe though can they not? Also, what about this? or stories like it?

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/104657/Democrats_vs_Rasmussen_polls

Not being from your neck of the woods I do not grasp (or indeed pay that much attention to) the intricacies of what obama et al are trying to achieve.

My point is not so much who is wrong or right, rather the way to attack any argument must be by argument and fact as opposed to sources of questionable worth?

I actually just saw something on that on the weeklystandard.

By contrast, one who is relatively serious, Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com, comments on his blog that "Rasmussen's election polling has tended to be quite accurate in the past." The fact is that in 2008, when Obama won by 7, Rasmussen's final poll had him ahead by 6. For the final five weeks or so of the campaign, Rasmussen showed Obama with a stable and solid lead, with between 50 and 52 percent of the vote -- which I know pretty much matched the McCain and Obama campaign's private polling. Other public polls fluctuated wildly. Pew matched Rasmussen's final result, but they had Obama +15 a week before. Gallup's final poll had Obama ahead by 11, and the Washington Post had Obama by 9 (and by 11 one night before the final poll). So Rasmussen came through in 2008.

So his polling results have been supposedly "pro-democrat" in the past. now you can assume this either means he "sides" with whoever seems to be the popular view for a time, or the Rasmussen group does reasonable polling work and simply reflects the view of the people.

With that said, I do agree that any poll should be scrutinized, and never be your only source for information. So for my congressional approval quote there is also a nice spreadsheet from polling report. These I beleive are just a collection of unscientific polls from other sites, but even the liberal network (CNN) shows only %27 of people approve of congress.

http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm

And on the healthcare questions, the Rasmussen results are right in the middle of most other polls from accross multiple other organizations.

http://www.pollingreport.com/health.htm

In that ABC/Washington Post poll almost as many people (%39) Strongly Oppose this healthcare reform as the people who strogly support (%22) and somewhat support (%22) it. (Somewhat Opposed was at %12) When asked "Based on what you have read or heard about those bills, do you generally favor them [the changes] or generally oppose them?" %56 of people tell CNN they oppose it; the same number Rasmussen reported.

Another thing I find very interesting fromt he collection of polling data on that site is that people have an overwhelmingly positive 'impression' of Obama himself, yet nearly every poll about his job as president shows he's lacking in nearly every aspect. (Specifically, people appear to like his work on environmental issues the most - and are most upset about his economic policies. IMO, economic policies are the root of everything right now - Not solely his fault, but his responsibility to know what to do with it)

Here's the other consideration: if multiple polls showed different things, or they were consistantly within the MOE, an argument could be made for either side. (Personally I don't think policy decisions should be made when it's THAT close anyways)

[Ragnarok]

possible elder scrolls mmo http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23626

[Broin]

Great, now we can go back to jacking each other off in one big circle jerk while the walls continue to crumble around us. Maybe we blocked major improvements to our current healthcare system, but at least we kept the dems from looking good!

I'm tired of it being so political at this point. Both sides agree there needs to be health care reform. The public option was taken out. Hell, almost everything that would "reform" health care was taken out, and yet the Republicans refuse to play ball because they know if Obama pushes through healthcare, it will be an instant legacy for his first term in office and give him a push forward for re-election.

If they thought the health care reform would fail, they'd let it pass and say "I told you so" so that they could come clean up the "mess" in three years.

And...Sarah Palin is a Fox News contributor. I don't know if that makes a bigger joke out of Fox News or the Republican Party. As if Fox News wasn't a big enough propaganda machine...

You know what I'm tired of fuckin' ignorance.  It's not about the Rep playing ball.  It's about the Dem's fucking manning up, stepping forward and saying hey we are doing this.  They've had the majority for a year and could've passed anything they wanted without the Rep being able to do a damn thing to stop them (.) PERIOD.  

They've been to damn chicken shit to do what they need to do to get it done.  Again there is nothing the Rep could've of done to stop them.  Nothing (.) Period

The fact is that the general majority didn't want the shit they were peddling.  The Dems who weren't fuckin crazy understood what was coming and the fuckin crazy ones who don't care are having a hard time leading the ones with some common sense to their own slaughter.  

Don't make this a Rep. thing and get the hell off the Palin shit.  Personally you start out by saying how things are political and how you don't like it then turn around and start slinging shit at her for no good damn reason other than the small minded ridiculous hate that you've been filled with by whomever you've been watching on tv or listening to in person.  

Start getting some fuckin facts about what you are bitchin about, listen to more than that fuckwad Colbert, and maybe you'll start understanding how things work a bit.