League of Legends

[Da6onet]

I dint mean u were failing... its pretty hard to fail as singed with those stats... lol

I just sayd that u were failing at categorizing him as the most op... but let me ask you.. if not him, then who?

Btw... still owe me that build xD

Ah well, yeah, to me the most OP "tank" is Amumu because aside from having a fantastic kit, every single one of his abilities deal damage and all have fantastic AP ratios, so he has all the built in utility of a tank and he can burst down a squishy champ. The only thing I wish I could figure out was a way to get his cdr at or near 40 while still having at least 9000ehp and 500AP. Right now I rely on grabbing blue elixir and golem buff to get his cdr to 35%, but even as a jungler I don't like having to rely on neutral buffs and elixirs are a finish build luxury to me; I think it's stupid to buy them before the 40 minute mark.

[Da6onet]

I dint mean u were failing... its pretty hard to fail as singed with those stats... lol

I just sayd that u were failing at categorizing him as the most op... but let me ask you.. if not him, then who?

Btw... still owe me that build xD

Ah well, yeah, to me the most OP "tank" is Amumu because aside from having a fantastic kit, every single one of his abilities deal damage and all have fantastic AP ratios, so he has all the built in utility of a tank and he can burst down a squishy champ. The only thing I wish I could figure out was a way to get his cdr at or near 40 while still having at least 9500ehp and 500AP. Right now I rely on grabbing blue elixir and golem buff to get his cdr to 35%, but even as a jungler I don't like having to rely on neutral buffs and elixirs are a finish build luxury to me; I think it's stupid to buy them before the 40 minute mark.

Remember you can always find my basic builds here
http://leaguecraft.com/users/da6onet/builds

Of course that doesn't cover all variations (like gold vs move speed quints) and order, but here is the basic build order.

amp tome + red pot->kage's->philo stone->boots 1->null mantle+chain armor->catalyst->RoA->merc treads->glacial shroud->lich bane->frozen heart->sell gold item for rabadons->sell gold items for void staff->elixirs

I tried using tear/AA staff with force of nature and armor yellows for singed, and on paper it's an amazing build, but in reality you will never spam your skills enough to max it out. Still somewhat viable, just not as strong for game that finish under 45 minutes.

[Arawn]

AA on singed is just not worth it... really... ive done my math and along with my gameplay i will never max it out.

I really dont like gold/5 builds :s but i guess i can try it out.

[Da6onet]

AA on singed is just not worth it... really... ive done my math and along with my gameplay I will never max it out.

I really don't like gold/5 builds :s but I guess I can try it out.

If you haven't read my post on gold items, I think it's on page 3 of this thread.

Generating gold via runes, masteries, or items is just something I incorporate in most of my characters to combat the "pro" criticism of 6 item builds being too expensive to be practical.

The approach really does snowball out of control about 25 minutes in or so, as evidenced by the last time I pitted my 4xgp/10 rune/mastery + 3xgp/10 item ashe build vs the other team's Ashe that had 3 doran's blades. She didn't get a kill on me in mid, and my cs score relative to her was was -20 about 20 minutes in +100 by end game. While we achieved our infinity edge and phantom dancer within about 3 minutes of eachother, by end game I had a last whisper, two phantom dancers, edge, bloodthirster and was starting on my madreds while she had zerkers, edge, dancer, vampiric scepter, bf sword and a doran's blade. Needless to say I had about 6000 gold on her (she also bought elixirs), about double the damage output and more kills. Also... we won.

I will say, whether you have doran's items or gp10 items, a ranged AD is generally only as good as the team's tank, and I really can't recall the last time I won a game as Ashe without a real tank (fuck you AP Alistar).

I will say I have tried incorporating gp10 items on Ryze and Malz, and it wasn't really a good fit.
1. mages typically have burst damage and as such should be farming kills fairly easily
2. mages scale more like tanks in that grabbing early parts of end game items like tear or fiendish codex gets you half or three quarters of the way where you're going, as opposed to trying to build a phantom dancer, which kinda sucks until it's finished.

A note about stacking doran's blades and rings on carries.
I do not endorse stacking doran's items unless you meet the at least one of the three following criteria.
1. You're playing a 3v3
2. You're playing a with a premade team and it's a high stakes low kill game (ie tournament play).
3. You not only expect the game to be done under 30 minutes, it's your goal. (this is most people).

The idea behind stacking blades/rings is that the stats are cheaper to obtain through doran's items than their counter parts (3 blades lifesteal hp and damage cheaper than 3 long swords a giant's belt and a vampiric scepter). As well, because you're not going to be pressed for inventory space early-mid game, it's ok to fill up two or three slots with doran's items before you have to sell them to make room.

All things (kills/cs/deaths) being equal, every time you buy a doran's item you need to earn 237 more gold to get to your end game build. So someone with two or three blades needs to earn 474 to 711 more gold to break even. Many people swear by the times they got away with a smidge of health thanks to the doran's item or needed an extra 10 damage to kill that person that got away because they didn't have a doran's item. I say good for them, but in the long term, you shouldn't bank your games on 100hp or 15ap.

btw, that gold generating ashe build I mentioned earlier, earned me 3000 gold (including original buy cost) by the time I sold my last gold item. Anyone would be hard pressed to farm enough kills to earn 3711 gold (assuming you bought three blades) to match my gold generating build, and that assumes our cs is equal and I get no kills :-)

[Arawn]

Yeey just went into a ranked... 11/6 and got a quadra then they surrendered... Singed ftw... The one who got away was Sion with a miserable 45 hp T_T

This game I decided to go for Boots of Swiftness instead of Sorc's Shoes... I gotta say I love the 436ms instead of the 418... But I felt like I was gimped real hard :S.

So im at a xroad... Speed or Damage?? Im a Speed whore thou... I got the Need For Speed really bad... But at the same time I wanna be the one not caring to run in there and past the enemy team while getting me some kills and ending up carrying the team

[Eroz]

I never need another skin again. I'm so glad I'm going, may be at the Riot booth all weekend though.

http://paxprime2011.leagueoflegends.com/article/get-exclusive-pax-sivir-skin-free-pax-prime

[Oomm]

That is an awesome skin; however Sivir isn't a popular pick since her Q got nerfed...le sigh. I loved picking her up during ranked games and all I did was dominate mid lane and taking down both towers before the 15 minute mark.

[Manic Velocity]

I finally bit down and started playing this.  I've gone through the tutorial and a few bot matches, and I still have no fucking idea what I'm doing.

Since it appears none of us got into this round of the TOR beta weekend, I was hoping someone could show me the ropes.  I'm registered as "Manic Velocity".

[Broin]

Welcome to the pod people Manic....

[Kassandra]

lolol Ive added you, poke me if you wanna play ^^

[likwidtek]

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[Manic Velocity]

Why do I feel as if I've wandered into a seedy crack den?

Everybody's eyeballing me, and I'm a little ashamed of myself, but my feet won't stop walking.

[Ghisteslwchlohm]

Because that's exactly what just happened.

Also, I added you. Let's play!

[ArchNemesis]

I'll add you tonight =D

[Ghisteslwchlohm]

My favorite skin.