Columbus Day Approacheth

[Manic Velocity]

Shit's way too serious in here.

[Tbone]

Well unless you disagree with Obama and the Dems because then they call you things like

Racist
Bigots
Homophob
Nazi
Skin Head
Turn Coat
Uncle Tom
Inciting Violence

LOL I could go on and on but you get the idea... And before I hear this crap about they all do it... This is coming from the Dem leadership not some rank and file member at a protest rally.

"[Obama] is someone who sees America it seems as being so imperfect that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country”
-Sarah Palin

"[Obama] has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist."
-Glenn Beck

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force. I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may—may not, I hope not—but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism. That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did. When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist
-Rep. Paul Brown


...I can do this all day long. I didn't even delve into Obama being an Antichrist, not being born in the US, etc. etc. All extreme rumors and names that were started by and fueled by the Rep leadership.

My point is, yeah, they all do it. And your guys are damn good at it

[Broin]

Ahhhh... Difference is what they are stating are truths.   Obama has been palling around with terrorists.  From before he started out his race for the white house...  He started his political career with an unrepentant terrorist, and founding member of a terrorist group.  Bill Ayers and his Weathermen group.  

Obama isn't a really a Marxist he's a fascist... Though I'd say Paul Brown was pretty close in the way Obama wants things to be.  Think about it, the goverment has taken over large segments of the auto industry, the banking and finance industry, and want to be the sole provider of healthcare.  What the hell is that if not Socialist and Marxist?  

Oh, and Glenn Beck isn't in an elected office.  But feel free to google some more stuff for me, and I'll just rattle off the top of my head the facts of the situation.

[Fuse]

[Tbone]

Ahhhh... Difference is what they are stating are truths.  

Your logic is flawed, sir. You fail to see that both sides of the argument perceive what they say as "the truth". I could easily argue that there are plenty of people who disagree with Obama who are, in actuality, racists, bigots, homophobes, skin heads, etc, and I'd be correct.

The argument is not, actually, who is right and who is wrong, or what is truth and what is not (we'd be here a long time arguing those points). The argument I brought up, anyway, is that the use of name-calling to incite negative connotations against your opposition is used commonly on both sides of the fence, so it makes you pointing that out rather moot.

In other news, I wish your racist bigots would stop inciting violence already! :-P

[Broin]

I don't follow what your saying....

Truth is based off of facts.  Individuals who argue that there is no truth because both sides lie and distort it are in themselves failing to see the finality of things.  The facts of what is and what is not is where in the truth lies.  That's why liberals focus more on feeling and emotions than the factuality of situations.

I defy you to show me how the President is not cozy with known terrorist from the past who are unrepentant, who had their hands in the bombings of the capital buildings and the deaths of several law enforcement officers; or show me how I am wrong in saying that he has met with the leaders of current regiems in ways that we have never done before, giving legitamcy to those regiems in ways that every president before him said would be the wrong thing to do.

Or show me how I am wrong in saying that he is a Social Marxist.  

I mean let's all be serious here... The president is a Socialist

Really I'd call him fascist as that is a better descriptor of his philosophy

[Lithium]

There is an easy way to determine how worthless a president is.

When you're watching TV and a short infomercial comes on for a debt consolidation or a mortgage loan shark company and they are playing clips of a speech that Obama gave about 'helping those in debt by providing rebates' and promises of 'free money for your debt' lights and buzzers should ring in your head that something is fucked up here.

And just to throw in a story about an unfortunate run we had with a self proclaimed socialist democrat while camping a few weekends ago... well he thought that, "we should all be payed $30K a year and if you don't do work they kill you. And you can't leave the country because the socialist dictator would control the entire world." and "nobody deserves more money than that." The scary thing is there was not a bit of sarcasm in any of it.

[Manic Velocity]

Have you all learned nothing from The Matrix?  Recall the teachings of Neo and Smith.

Nobody is going to win if we keep fighting eachother.  We've been doing it for centuries and it only reinforces the cycle.  Each side has its strengths and weaknesses.  It is only when the two come together that they are extinguished as separates, and reborn as singular light.  We must stop resisting eachother and acknowledge that we are all in this together.

And you're all a bunch of racist faggots, anyway.

[Ash]

Have you all learned nothing from The Matrix?  Recall the teachings of Neo and Smith.

Nobody is going to win if we keep fighting eachother.  We've been doing it for centuries and it only reinforces the cycle.  Each side has its strengths and weaknesses.  It is only when the two come together that they are extinguished as separates, and reborn as singular light.  We must stop resisting eachother and acknowledge that we are all in this together.

And you're all a bunch of racist faggots, anyway.

Somebody misses MxO.

[Lithium]

Well if it weren't for the conservatives throwing the facts around, shutting down Obama's socialism bills, and pointing out the communists appointed to the white house staff I could only imagine how far along we would be right now in the socialization of America. As long as there is fighting, opinions, and bickering there will be freedom.

And another point I want to make is this: If evil dictators do not hate America, then we are not doing our job!

[Tbone]

Continuing the name-calling of people you disagree with only further proves my point. Don't argue that "the other side is calling us names" when you do the exact same thing and claim it's legitimate because your point of view is "right" while the other half (other half being a MAJORITY of the voting population) disagrees with you.

And I know that Glenn Beck isn't an elected official. I pointed him out because he is a conservative leader. Much like you like to blame the "liberal media", conservatives have their own media powerhouses that have more influence over the ignorantly susceptible than they ever should.

[Broin]

My favorite points of the day on Obama...

He wants to

Hurry up with the stimulus
Hurry up with the goverment run healthcare
They've both got to be done in weeks or days when first announced...

But...

When the general in charge of the Afghan theatre calls for more troops...

We've got to take our time...
I'm in no hurry...

Heck he hadn't even me with McChrystal except for a 45 min teleconfrence that they condcuted once over a 71 day time period...

I mean I understand the guy had  some bigger issues to mull over at the time... You know like bringing the Olympics to Chicago.

Come on Mr. and Mrs. Soldier suck it up, and I'll get back to you when I get around to it.  In the mean time Hurry up with all the other stuff I deem important...

[Fuse]

^^^^
All of that stuff also pissed me off. His priorities are completely jacked up. He "wasn't aware" of the crap happening with ACORN despite being tied to them. He said that isn't a priority for him, despite our money going to a corrupt group. He speaks on Michael Jacksons death quicker than he speaks about Iran.

[Manic Velocity]

Man... Columbus was a jerk.

[NoCry]

lol