Spider-Man 3

[Heironymus]

Is it just me or was there a ninja in this movie!!

[Pirus]

its just you.... but there are some in the game lol

[Phienyx]

**[The below review contains possible spoilers.  You have been warned.]**


I finally saw this movie.  

It was entertaining, but did not have quite the depth and charm as the first two.  First off, I love the relationship ups and downs between MJ and Peter/Spidey.

I think one of the main issues  is that they tried to cram too many "bad guys" into one movie.  I think that a bad guy in a movie needs to have just as much depth (if not more) as the main character to balance things out.  The best conflicts between good and evil come when you know just as much about the bad guy's history, character, background and motivations as you do the good guy's.  I think this movie should have been just between Harry/Goblin and Peter/Spidey.  This would have given them the time and space needed to concentrate on that relationship/conflict, develop Harry/Goblin a little more on psychological level and bring it to a proper climax.  This has been building since the first movie and I think it kinda fizzled out on a pretty weak note, devoid of anything truley moving as it could have.  It was "heartwarming" to see Harry and Peter working together at the end, but the way they brought him around was not only matter of fact, but not likely.  The psychology that would drive a person to do what Harry did would not be so easily convince by the butler coming in out of the blue and saying "Oh, but the way, after all this time I thought I'd tell you the truth.....blah, blah blah."

Venom needed to be held off until a 4th movie where he could be developed as the sole baddie in the movie.  He really didn't have much depth in this movie at all, nor was he really all that interesting.

Sandman had a slightly interesting background, but it was not taken to the depth it could have been taken to because....guess what....too many bad guys to develop any one of them decently.  I did dig his turn to Sandman though.  It should have taken him more time to grow accustomed to his "powers/abilities" and learn to function in his new form.

In regard to the now infamous "Emo Peter" I must say I liked it....that is until that cheesy John Travolta like street strutting and that retarded dance scene in the jazz club/diner.

Overall, it is a good movie, but it could have been beetter.

[Pirus]

yep I agree with phienyx the emo peter seemed to suit the traits of the "black suit" but yeah venom deserves his own movie with spiderman.  After all venom is supposed to be spiderman's greatest foe.  But like most others I stil loved it ... but it could have either been an hour longer and made everyone pee 13 times during the movie or split up spiderman 3 into 2 movies and brought venom out in spiderman 4.

[Phienyx]

Another thing that bugged me:  3 bad guys, plenty of deep seated anger and various motives for revenge and the only thing any of them can think of to do is to pick on MJ?  COME ON!!  Ok Sandman wasn't out to hurt people, but I think he would have thought of something on a grander scale to collect money for his daughters cure.  Venom?  He had more than just Parker to get revenge on.  He should have been engaging in some act of terror that would have encompassed the entire city.  And Goblin/Harry?  Well, he should have been the only one to have a vendetta strictly against Peter AND MJ,k but the side effect of that enhancer he takes would have caused him to do things on a grander scale as well.

The writers were thinking way too small and were not even very creative about that.

All in all, I liked the movie, but as a writer, alot of things annoyed the hell out of me.

[Tbone]

Harry and Peter joining forces just reminded me of the ambiguously gay duo.

Harry: "Hold on!"
Spidey: "Hold on to what?"

Hate to say it but the movie should have been done without sandman altogether. I know what they were trying to do - resolve the conflict Peter has with his uncle's death - but that issue was pretty much assumed resolved from the other movies. I just think the movie would have been much better if it had been about symbiote spidey/emo peter screwing shit up while harry planned revenge, and then Venom developing while Peter tries to reconcile all the crap he screwed up and then slowly building to the climax of Peter and Harry finally resolving things just in time to team up on Venom. The Sandman stuff just made the ending and Venom's development too rushed, and I don't think anyone bought into Venom saying "hey sandman...I'm Venom...let's screw up spiderman!"

[Subb]

If there is Spiderman 4... There is also 'Carnage'


((thats the other venom guy and alot nastier; Venom actually helps spidey defeat him in the comics.))

but yeah, I loved the film! Emo Peter **thumbs up** lack of venom **thumbs down** I loved the french waiter guy! Did he remind any of you of John Cleese?

[Phienyx]

Do any of you know who plays that French waiter?

[Jeyk]

Bruce Campbell.

[Phienyx]

BINGO!!

He also played the Wrestling announcer in the first movie and the theatre usher in the second movie.

Great stuff!

[Tecknik]

Yep.  Do you know why he was featured in all three movies?

[Anonymous]

Because he is the epitome of awesomeness?

[Phienyx]

Yep.  Do you know why he was featured in all three movies?

No clue.

[Subb]

Subb demands Carnage and the return of Venom for Spidey 4.... yes there will be a spidey 4!

[Subb]

and here's proof; but it looks like someone called "Morlun" is to be the baddie.