Vote to Save /follow and /face on Hostile Players

[Tbone]

You were a lot nicer than I was. lol

[Manic Velocity]

I have the perfect solution:

Remove HJ completely.  It's perfect!  If we can no longer chase our targets, then they should no longer be able to escape.  It's the only way to make it fair!

Shit... I think Rarebit heard me...

Can I get a mop for all this dripping sarcasm?

[Anamodiel]

I have the perfect solution:

Remove HJ completely.  It's perfect!  If we can no longer chase our targets, then they should no longer be able to escape.  It's the only way to make it fair!

Shit... I think Rarebit heard me...

Can I get a mop for all this dripping sarcasm?

That might actually be part of the solution. I'm totally in favor of getting rid of the ctrl+space (Mario Jump) jump in favor of the reticle only jump.

[Fuse]

actually I suggested a while back not allowing HJ while in a combat state.

[Lithium]

Unfortunatly fuse they don't listen to our ideas.

They sit in a meeting room for 12 hours and decide if /face and /follow are unbalanced.
Then they go home.
Take a sick day.
Go to work an hour late and sit in another meeting for 3 hours debating if /face and /follow are unbalenced
Take a 4 hours break and troll the forums.
Sit in a meeting for another 3 hours debating what to do for Halloween.
Then there coder comments out a few lines of code and writes a new if statment.
Then its time to go home.

[Lithium]

I guess it is worth noting that they put in a hotfix for this today.

Of course they didn't completely fix it, 3rd times a charm maybe?
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300006643

Of course FH and Collective are all over the issues and calling for it to be deemed an exploit now. SIGH.

Of course they all forget that the majority of the community didn't want to see this gone in the first place.

[Tbone]

Sploitz! I just had to post in that thread...

[Lithium]

Somebody needs to just slug sneaker. How can he call /face and /follow unfair but magic moving midair HJ fair? Oh, thats right he wants to fly away without getting killed whenever times get rough. Evening the odds by getting rid of that would be unfair to his 100% success escape.

[Anamodiel]

Sneaker is bringing up another god damn fucking shit storm and bringing US into shit when we haven't even posted.

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300007120

Is there any way that we can find out where he lives so Broin can take him out Government style?

[Lithium]

He's a fucking idiot. Who actually gives a shit anymore? It's obvious they are all sucking each others dicks over there.

[Tbone]

Before Sneaker deletes it:

Sneaker wrote:
FA should know better.

Apologize, broin, for abusing an emote identical to one that the devs removed.


This whole discussion is ridiculous, the end all being Sneaker's attitude...

I know my points will widely be ignored, but here we go. We were told that the reason /face and /follow were removed was because MxO was never meant to have an auto-lock-and-follow system. To claim that any other emote has the same effect as /face shows a disregard for the issue at hand.

You must not be in a combat state to use an emote. This means using an emote at any point near a confrontation is impossible. This includes getting shot at, free firing someone, or just exiting interlock with someone. It takes a few seconds before the emote can be used.

An emote does not lock on to another player. It simply shows the direction of a player who is close to you for the brief second the emote is being performed. It does not stick.

You must be standing completely still to use an emote.

Simply put, there is NO WAY to auto lock and track a player using emotes. I can't stress to you how inefficient it is. The only benefit it has is finding the direction of a player after you have him on target to have an idea of where your enemy is before the battle begins.

What disgusts me most is the attitude that's accompanying this argument. I don't care how right you think you are or how many dev phone numbers you have or how much power you think you have over some gaming community - show some respect to the general population. Last I checked this was not The Sneaker Online and this isn't the TC forums. You have NO RIGHT to demand anything. You DEMAND an apology? There's a HUGE difference between sparking a discussing and POINTING FINGERS and DEMANDING APOLOGIES. To you, my dear friend, I simply say no, perhaps a word you don't hear enough.

I will leave you now with a statement that, while full of irony and hypocracy, should be looked at by EVERYONE in this discussion, especially those that sparked it. The following was recently said by Remag_Div, a Sneakerite:

"If you see anyone...intentionally 'abusing' emotes...please do not post it publicly on the forums as this will just cause more drama and bickering"

While this statement was being used simply to try and avoid a dose of their own medicine, it is true that if you are questioning something in the game or are wary that someone might be abusing a system, you should /ccr it. The LAST thing you should do is take the example of those who started this discussion and post screenshots, point fingers, and DEMAND that everyone agree with you and apologize. Doing so not only makes you look like a...well, insert whatever you want here...but is also considered flaming and flame-baiting. Should I DEMAND that you not do it? Hmm...nah, I'll leave that to the others.

[Jeyk]

It's as if a company publishes anti-FA propaganda every four months, and this is the current issue.  

Why does it seem that so many folks in MMO communities seek attention through drama and negativity?  My guess is that a good chunk of these guys are adolescents trying to strengthen their little virtual identities by pointing fingers at the big boys for things that they can use to justify their losses (e.g., dying in game).

They should introduce classes into elementary, middle, and high schools that teach the fundamentals of emotional stability, common courtesy, and debating...then maybe there wouldn't be so many bleeding vaginas that lack access to a much needed tampon in this world.

Since I didn't curse at all in the above statement (though I'd like to very much), I'll do it here.  Fucking, bullshit, asshole, goddamn.  Go ahead and drag and drop those four words into my above statements for your own entertainment.

/end rant

[Anonymous]

If it was me, I wouldn't have used the block caps, otherwise a good set of points

[Manic Velocity]

They should introduce classes into elementary, middle, and high schools that teach the fundamentals of emotional stability, common courtesy, and debating...then maybe there wouldn't be so many bleeding vaginas that lack access to a much needed tampon in this world.

Jeyk wins the internet!

Seriously, that shit had me laughing.  I would be honored if you were to impregnate my future wife.

[Lithium]

The Pretend Matrix Online

Coming Soon in 2007

No emotes
No damage taken
No combat states
No tracking tools
No macros
No buffs
Instant getaway and rollout
But tons of secret community-dev relations