Vote to Save /follow and /face on Hostile Players

[Anamodiel]

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300003268

Please, guys, vote in this topic. We really need /face and /follow. It's so helpful. XD

Sorry this is so short.. not much to say. Just vote.

[Manic Velocity]

All the Machs/Mervs in that thread are talking about these commands like only Zion has been given divine credence from the devs to use them.  I think everyone in those orgs purposefully makes the game not fun for themselves just so they can feel like they're taking the moral high ground.

Either that or I'm just cranky today.  

EDIT:  I take that back.  Pretty much everyone on Vector is clinging to these commands like oxygen.  Oddly enough, it's all the carebears that want them taken out.

[Anonymous]

Personally, as a carebear insomuch as I don't like gankers, I think face and follow still have a valid place.  There's a thrill in the hunt and even though I never use those commands they are useful for tracking down people who attack FA (if you'll remember that night we camped out in a mission area after a certain ganking attack).  So purely from a parochial view, they get my vote.  However, I don't think they'll listen and I think they'll remove them anyway.

[Tbone]

That's ridiculous. Read my post on page 6. It sums it up. I can already tell someone is gonna respond to my "God mode" comment and say that "/face" is God mode, but that's only because people are stupid.

[Pirus]

hehe i like how neener mentioned "that one faction who loves to be there when you land" hmm wonder which one he was talking about  LOL it seems that everyones main complaint is ... well US .. Who knew they didn't like us hunting them down and killing them.   It came as a shock to me what about you guys.

[Anonymous]

Much as I don't like them camping and spouting crap, camping and sniping, ganking while you're on assistance missions, etc.... but I don't complain

[Lithium]

Wow a vote becoming a flame war who coulda guessed.

[Anamodiel]

hahaha. I got flamed for my RP, which I meant as a joke. *rolls eyes and whistles*

[Anamodiel]

Anamodiel wrote: I've heard some hints on Recursion that some nerfing will be happening to /face and /follow.. What exactly is being changed with them?

Rarebit wrote: The intent is that they will no longer work on hostile players.

Endlessvoid wrote: Woah, woah, woah... I thought that the poll results on that one CLEARLY stated that we as a community did NOT want any changes made to those commands. ... And now I can't find the poll, so if someone could, that would be great. But I thought that we decided those commands were needed as-is. - Void

It was an interesting poll, certainly, and showed some of the uses and limitations of a flat polling process. It was particularly interesting to me that at first all the votes were for keeping them as-is; then the Machinists found out about it, and the "change them" votes kicked in. Yes, the "keep them" side was still larger when the poll was shut down due to flaming or whatever it was, but the measurable swings in the votes, and the vehemence of the arguments for and against, clearly illustrated that all is not right in the world as far as those commands are concerned, even if the majority says they're okay with them.

Anyway, as Walrus said when I forwarded the team a player account giving an example of how these commands are used, our game should not have an "auto lock-on." If you ask me whether my sentiments lie with the group trying to track an escaping player, or with the escaping player, I will tell you that they tend to lie with the escaping player. In general we do not want functions that favor the larger side of an existing population imbalance, since that will simply increase the imbalance, and by all accounts, /face and /follow have been doing just that in PVP, and that was never a part of their design.

That being said, I think that there is value in having tracking tools; but these must be incorporated within the checks and balances of our existing ability and item systems, and in any event they should not allow players to auto-pilot to a target. From what I've heard, Dracomet's work on luggables includes some new tracking functionality--specific, I believe, to luggables, but it will help give us evaluate the potential for other tracking abilities.

Well god dammit. That's total bullshit. All of it. *runs off into a swearing frenzy*

[Lithium]

Welcome to the Incompetence Hotel would you like a mint on your pillow? (But we are out of pillows)

[Pirus]

damn, that sucks more than Britney Spears on her knees.  Oh, well back to the old way of doing things.

[Manic Velocity]

How can Rarebit use the org imbalance as an excuse for that?  All orgs can and do use the commands, for fuck's sake.

Seems like more and more the devs want to make the game easier and easier for those that don't want to die.  Just take "Hostile" out of the server name for Vector.  It no longer applies.

Maybe with update 50 they'll just merge all the servers into one.  :\

EDIT: Also, Anamodiel needs to swear more.  

[Da6onet]

You can catch my response to Rarebit's pussiness here.
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?start=2625&topic_id=36300001592

[Heironymus]

No offense to WOW but it is a game set on EASY mode.. even little kids with no gaming skills can be a "good player" in that game.. not saying some aspects of the game don't take skill.. but.. anyways on to my main point.. I honestly think the Devs are trying to make this game "easier" to play so that you don't have to be very good at your skills or abilities to be able to win. CR2.0 was loaded with stuff that made some aspects of the game easier to play (double hotbar and such) and although Dag and others are masters of buffs and thier skills they are becoming few and far between... it is becoming easier to win in a fight even if you suck or are a few levels lower... WTF...
STOP TRYING TO TURN OUR GAME INTO A GAME ON EASY MODE

JMO

[Lithium]

The more they (reds) cry the more dumb they will make the game.

We are the last maturity left in the game and we are outnumbered with stupidity so the devs will favor the majority.