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Author Topic: Regards from Tyshalle  (Read 4837 times)

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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2004, 01:00:47 pm »
Quote from: "Oronos"
I feel dissapointed that no-one had the patience to deal with him, he was unique.  I know, I agrued the very point with him on a number of occaisions.  He did not directly insult any of the people during his time here, and only after he got kicked out for voicing his opinions did he get angry.  I think any of you would.  I say do unto others as they should do to you.  I know he didn't like everyone in the clan, but he had respect for the people who counted in his view.  When you get a community this big you can't expect everyone to have the same opinion, unless you are clones or sheep.  

I don't want to say any more but I respected the guy and I'm not happy to see him go.


Oronos, like everyone here you are welcome to your opinion, but since you voice it in such detail, I feel the need to point out where I think you are incorrect.

First, Tyshalle was not unique, unless by that you mean to say that every human being is unique in which case we are all equally unique.  He was merely argumentative.  And some may view that as a positive characteristic.  When matched with derision and an insulting demeanor, I do not.

Second, you seem to think he didn't insult anyone.  I beg to differ.  He very specifically meant to insult me on a couple of different occassions.  I saw him do the same to others frequently in his little "debates."  _YOU_ may not have felt that _I_ was insulted; but I did so don't try and tell me that he didn't insult any of the crew here.

Third, he didn't get kicked out for voicing his opinions.  He got kicked out for being an asshole about HOW he voiced his opinions.  He got kicked out because he absolutely failed to "fit in."  Fitting in does not mean having the same opinions, it means being generally respectful toward your crewmates.

Fourth, I don't expect everyone to share my opinion, in fact I'd prefer if they didn't because that is boring.  But I DO expect people to treat my opinion with the respect it deserves and I will do likewise.  There is simply no need to demean anothers' opinion, even if you flat out disagree with it.  And if you can't see that he was doing that, then we are on completely opposite sides of the opinion spectrum on the subject.

Now, IMO as a humble crewmate, we should let those who are happy at his leaving rejoice and those who are upset grieve.  I also think its silly to believe we have to respect people who leave the faction.  If they leave because they cannot play or they wish to find their true path or whatever, great; if they leave because THEY ARE KICKED OUT, then it's something else entirely.  The fact that he was able to beat the first puzzle does not mean he is automatically entitled to my respect even after disrespecting my crewmates and myself several times over.  It's that simple.  If it makes me a bad person in your eyes because I'm glad I don't have to put up with his negative, in-your-face posts, then I'm prepared to deal with that consequence.  /shrug

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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2004, 04:42:09 pm »
Why dont we just lock this thread......as this is quickly turning into either a "I can voice my opinion, but dont criticize it with your opinion" thread, or just a plain out bad argument.

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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2004, 04:51:26 pm »
I agree.

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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2004, 06:39:31 pm »
I think everyone's had a chance to express their opinion on the matter. If you have any further questions, feel free to contact me privately.

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