FA Discussion => Off Topic => Topic started by: Longboard on January 22, 2013, 05:25:39 pm
Title: The Elder Scrolls ONLINE!
Post by: Longboard on January 22, 2013, 05:25:39 pm
Hey guys, I saw an ad on Reddit for signups for TES Online and I wanted to share with you guys. The sign-up includes a guild name, so if they notice our guild is signing up for it, we'll be able to get into it! I won't sign up with the guild's name w/o permission though.
Here is the link http://signup.elderscrollsonline.com/
EDIT: This is Seoni. For some reason, I was on my father's account. I should change his password :D
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Post by: Sared on January 22, 2013, 05:28:42 pm
+1 for hacking dad's forum account!
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Post by: Seoni on January 22, 2013, 05:55:31 pm
>:D
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Post by: Tbone on January 22, 2013, 05:59:11 pm
I signed up. I looked at a gameplay trailer for this the other day and, honestly, I wasn't impressed. It looks less like Skyrim where your friends can join you and more like WoW with horn helmets (which WoW probably already has). I think I read somewhere that it's not even the same dev team making it that make the Elder Scrolls games.
Here's the lackluster trailer I saw:
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Post by: Strod on January 22, 2013, 06:17:30 pm
I would say the graphics are pretty compared to WoW, but that being said again a severely older graphic style game. (Even if they have updated textures over the years).
Really though, in the end, this is just another EQ, WoW, TOR etc game. Just a different skinned game with it's own lore. If you are a fanatic, I imagine you will check it out.
Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls ONLINE!
Post by: Longboard on January 22, 2013, 07:17:23 pm
I signed up so I can participate with my boy who hacks people forums accounts!
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Post by: Erathaol on January 22, 2013, 07:21:32 pm
I signed up as well, though I'm honestly not expecting much out of it. I adore the Elder Scrolls and lose nothing by signing up, so why not?
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Post by: Manic Velocity on January 22, 2013, 08:00:43 pm
A class-based instanced fantasy themepark? So groundbreaking!
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Post by: Tbone on January 22, 2013, 11:28:38 pm
I'm not too enthusiastic about seeing cool locations in the Elder Scroll series be dumbed down into MMO graphics and mechanics either.
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Post by: Baobinga on January 24, 2013, 02:39:07 am
I signed up for the beta. Curious of how the game will play out.
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Post by: likwidtek on January 24, 2013, 03:33:58 pm
..and a resounding "meh" was heard by all.
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Post by: Subb on January 24, 2013, 04:04:34 pm
I will not be touching this even with a long shitty stick. I'll stay to my single player RPGs.
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Post by: Zooey on January 25, 2013, 05:23:02 pm
Wow, if you guys aren't interested don't sign up for the beta and fuck up my game then. I like the way its going. Its reminding me more of Oblivion than Skyrim, but the graphics are looking good especially for an unpolished alpha.
I have more hope for ESO than SWTOR in any form.
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Post by: Tbone on January 25, 2013, 05:32:36 pm
There is irony in that one of the big gripes about SWTOR was that it was ruining the KOTOR series and wasn't really a KOTOR game. That being said, the KOTOR games were, what, 10-15 years old. SWTOR was still a huge leap forward compared to the original KOTOR games.
The problem with ESO is that it's going to be compared to Skyrim, and it looks like it's going to be a giant leap backwards in all categories compared to that game.
Just because you're pessimistic about a game doesn't mean you shouldn't sign up for Beta. If all they had were fanboys who wanted to play the game early, the game would come out and bomb for everyone except for that small, niche demographic. It'll do them good to hear people saying "hey, you realize this game is going to be compared to SKYRIM, right?" and maybe, just maybe, the game will be better because of it.
In terms of having more hope for ESO - they'd have to make a radical announcement of something new and innovative for me to have any hope for it. As an Elder Scrolls fan AND an MMO fan, I'M having trouble finding something good to say about the game.
Most people are going to be looking for Skyrim Online. Hell, I'm looking for Skyrim Online. This does not look close to Skyrim Online...but, it could surprise me! The videos I've seen look like landscapes and classes that could be in ANY MMO. As a matter of fact, if you showed me the in game footage and took out all the audio and video referencing Elder Scrolls, I would never guess that it's an online version of Elder Scrolls.
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Post by: Manic Velocity on January 25, 2013, 06:50:04 pm
It just doesn't look like they're doing anything particularly new or interesting. Like I said, a class-based, instanced, fantasy themepark. Gee... how ambitious. At this point it seems like they're taking the absolute safest route possible in terms of gameplay, and banking on the success of the "Elder Scrolls" name. Bioware did the same thing, and now gameplay updates come in second behind cash shop updates.
Show me something about the game that isn't what everyone else is already doing. Show me something about the game that isn't already on offer. Show me something about the game that shows they are making just a little effort to push the MMO genre forward. Then I'll be interested.
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Post by: Zooey on January 25, 2013, 09:21:03 pm
Personally the no PvP stat for me is a sell.
Combined with my class is like a color pallete with many diverse paths instead of the three tree talent system.
Any weapon. Any armor. Any class.
3 Faction system. DAOC style world pvp. Don't want to PvP and still help the war effort? Questing, raids, and dungeons in Cyrodiil progress the resources for the war effort.
A single server per continent so no splitting friends or guild (important for me).
Huge worlds. Skyrim in ESO is the same size as Skyrim from ES V.
The graphics are currently Alpha and slated to be on par with Skyrim.
Less hotbar ability rotations with more Elder Scrolls combat. The hotbar is more like the favorites menu from Skyrim.
You are rewarded for playing better. Killing creatures with finesse reward more xp and loot (very excited to see how that works.)
They say that its less quest hub-ish a more a messenger runs up or you stumble across a random objective.
Public dungeons and grouping areas.
(Conjecture from the early testers back in Nov.) They promise an amazing main stories with plenty of side quests. Each faction is independent on quests and far less cookie cutter. They also claim that they could hardly tell the difference between Skyrim and ESO.
They're are currently two things I want changed:
#1 Faction protected zones is stupid. They need to add quests for scout those areas or something interesting. It was stupid in SWTOR; it is stupid for this, especially since I want to roam the wilderness with my Breton Ranger / Assassin.
#2 You can be in multiple guilds. I personally think that killed Guild Wars for me. I hope its changed.
Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls ONLINE!
Post by: Sared on January 26, 2013, 12:46:01 pm
The only thing that sounds appealing in that list is the raw size of the world and the server-per-continent. I like those ideas and I want to see them fleshed out and fleshed out well.
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Post by: Zooey on January 26, 2013, 03:48:42 pm
I do as well.
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Post by: Tbone on January 26, 2013, 04:01:21 pm
Didn't they say they were just having one world? And that the technology would just put you into the server where your friends are? That doesn't really sound any different from a game like EQ2 where there are 30 instances of the same map. It just sounds like instead of 30, there's going to be 300 since it's just one world.
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Post by: Manic Velocity on January 26, 2013, 05:03:10 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
Didn't they say they were just having one world? And that the technology would just put you into the server where your friends are? That doesn't really sound any different from a game like EQ2 where there are 30 instances of the same map. It just sounds like instead of 30, there's going to be 300 since it's just one world.
Sounded more like TSW to me, with multiple servers but you can freely move between them within the game.
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Post by: Tbone on January 26, 2013, 05:21:29 pm
Mega Server with phases/instances. Solves server queues and balance. Causes lack of actual community.
Title: The Elder Scrolls ONLINE!
Post by: Strod on February 04, 2013, 11:33:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEI
Information from an Alpha Test.
Just spotted this, some of the information I didn't think would be in the game.
Title: The Elder Scrolls ONLINE!
Post by: Manic Velocity on February 05, 2013, 09:39:01 am
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"...like a Skyrim-GW2 hybrid"
"...very similar to Dialbo 3"
"When it comes to PvE, this may be one of the things they took from WoW."
"...kind of like GW2" (in praise of the combat system)
"...it works like DAoC" (in reference to open-world PvP)
So if you've played nearly any other MMO on the market, you've played ESO.
AI mechanics sound very similar to what exists in EVE. NPCs calculate their most effective strategy based on the loadouts of the players, and the loadouts of the surrounding NPCs.
"Phasing technology", like Tbone said, literally divides the community into niche groups based on the questionnaire given at character creation. So despite that it's all housed on a single "megaserver", everyone gets split up anyway.
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"The system is designed to have 200 people on screen at all times."
I can't see this being anything but another level-based, holy trinity treadmill. Devs will spend months or years developing content that players will chew through in two weeks and repeat out of boredom. Nothing you accomplish will affect anything outside of your personal story, essentially making it a single-player game. The phasing technology only reinforces this.
The franchise name is its main selling point. People will play it because it's Elder Scrolls. Meanwhile the gameplay remains uninspired. Sounds familiar. (http://www.swtor.com/)
I really want to see the genre grow out of this rut.
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Post by: Tbone on March 20, 2013, 02:25:57 pm
I will say that taking the "roleplay" out of MMORPG has become way too popular. Bring back MxO's live events! At least let us sit in chairs!
Title: Re: The Elder Scrolls ONLINE!
Post by: Sared on March 20, 2013, 02:49:43 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
I will say that taking the "roleplay" out of MMORPG has become way too popular. Bring back MxO's live events! At least let us sit in chairs!
This. This all goddamn day long. I want GM's, not CSR's.
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Post by: Zooey on March 20, 2013, 06:05:42 pm
I'm almost ready to pull out my pre-order. I want to get into a beta to make the final decision.
I want my damn sandbox to play in.
My next fantasy MMO, besides the World of Darkness one, everyone talks about but doesn't link.. : assholes... is Pathfinder Online (https://goblinworks.com/blog/)
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Post by: Zooey on March 20, 2013, 06:08:43 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
I will say that taking the "roleplay" out of MMORPG has become way too popular. Bring back MxO's live events! At least let us sit in chairs!
You realize Bioware called SWTOR a Star Wars MMO, not an MMORPG. It seems that all Theme Parks are now MMOs and Not MMORPGs. I get more roleplay in Star Trek Online than I do in Star Wars the Old Republic.