FA Discussion => Off Topic => Topic started by: XxUnforgivenxX on January 11, 2011, 08:27:31 pm
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: XxUnforgivenxX on January 11, 2011, 08:27:31 pm
I'm getting back into MMO's and I'm wondering if DCUO's worth it. Both games seem interesting, but since I haven't played either but if anyone's been in both games please leave your two cents. =)
Title: Re: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Tbone on January 11, 2011, 09:33:33 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Oh, you're being serious?
I was in Beta for DCUO. It was extremely unpolished, even for a Beta. The best way I could describe the game is "watered down". I guess since it is releasing on console as well, everything has been dumbed down to your basic console action game. After your initial choice of combat method, there's no variation in what you do - it's simply a button mashing game.
The graphics weren't very impressive. The dialog was very cheesy, and only a few of the voice actors (the big names) were any good. The story was kinda divided up into baddies (I was playing a good guy). You'd go to x location and kill y number of baddies, then go to x location and kill another y number of baddies, then go to another x location and kill another y number of baddies, until finally you go into an instanced area where you make your way through a dungeon until you team up with x goodie to kill y baddie. Rinse and repeat.
I'm not a huge DC fanatic, but I've heard several hardcore fans say that the game is not worth a subscription cost, and I would agree. I would put it on par with a low-quality Spider-man game where you can kinda swing around the city, but that's the best part of the game. In DCUO you can fly, bounce, or speed around, and that's really the only interesting thing I did. I played until about lvl 15-20, and never really felt like I was having much fun.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to play SWTOR yet, so I can't compare the two side-by-side. All of the most recent media impressions have been extremely positive (just look for Jedi impressions that were released in December). I know some friends in Beta currently who said it is extremely well polished and plays as solid as WoW does (I've never played WoW, but based on the numbers, that must be a good thing). With Bioware leading the charge, there's no way the game is going to be BAD.
Title: Re: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: XxUnforgivenxX on January 11, 2011, 09:58:16 pm
Damn, DCUO sounds much worse than MxO, (not that MxO was horrible, it was far from it.) I had a notion SWTOR was going to be awesome, especially since reading somewhere that it was rumored 300m has gone into it's production thus far. I'm hoping the battles in TOR feel somehwat cinematic, if not the same, as MxO was. Perhaps I'll get my kick off of fighting alongside Batman for a month and give it up. Nah forget it, I'll just wait for Arkham City.
BTW, it's been a while! good seein you and this place again!
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Broin on January 11, 2011, 10:11:07 pm
I couldn't play it for more than 15 minutes.... That's saying alot right there.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 12, 2011, 04:07:12 am
My copy should be coming for the 14th (release for the UK) and I'm giving it a test run for 30 days. I got to Beta test and I only found it good because:
A) HUGE Superman and Batman fan. Period. B) You are super-powerful from the get go and at the latter stages of the Beta the dev team revamped most abilities for the upper levels to even more uber. C) The game is good for the LATER levels than the early ones. Even I wanted to quit around levels 5-15.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: JazzyC on January 12, 2011, 09:12:28 am
I nearly bought the game on a whim this morning. Thankfully I checked here for some opinions first.
My wallet is grateful.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: ExternalError on January 12, 2011, 05:09:50 pm
beta'd dcuo was very disappointed got to lvl 25 but frankly I played this game at fan faire 2 years ago and there were big negatives then and 2 years later none of these have been fixed. From what I understood the beta was pretty much the finished article with only tweaks going into the initial launch as every bug that was reported seem to get a rebuttle of this will be sorted after going live. To be honest the next SOE game im looking at is the agency as the lvl I got to play at fan fair 2 years ago was well constructed and the controls worked and the game felt smooth. if they deliver half of what walrus was saying they wanted to do with it it could be a nice game.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 14, 2011, 02:52:28 am
Wow. Whoever said that Beta was 'the final product' was wrong:
There are some minor graphical tweeks for the better, new VO for Heroes (not checked Villains yet); the Flash has a new voice (God his VO was shit in Beta) for starters.
New animations and abilities (for brawling and fire; the ones I've used so far). Combat seems a bit more fluid, but I've had one or two bugs.
I've experienced NO lag at all despite there being only two EU serves with high populations.
The apparel system (in game, not character creation) has been changed so you can have vanity slots etc. and change your apparel/skin colour in game via the menus.
So far, I'm impressed with the end product.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Ash on January 14, 2011, 09:16:05 am
Quote from: "ExternalError"
... To be honest the next SOE game I'm looking at is the agency ...
Well the good news is that if we decide to play The Agency I already have a Recruitment Challenge ready to go for it.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Tbone on January 14, 2011, 12:05:47 pm
Quote from: "Subb"
So far, I'm impressed with the end product.
Yeah, but you're a big fanboi :-P
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 14, 2011, 03:09:19 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
Quote from: "Subb"
So far, I'm impressed with the end product.
Yeah, but you're a big fanboi :-P
Yes... well... meh... but... no...
*shakefist*
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Eroz on January 15, 2011, 02:18:06 am
Quote from: "Tbone"
Quote from: "Subb"
So far, I'm impressed with the end product.
Yeah, but you're a big fanboi :-P
I enjoyed the end of beta too, I stopped playing just so I wouldn't see all of the content by release, just waiting for Best Buy to ship it to me to start playing.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: XxUnforgivenxX on January 15, 2011, 03:17:16 am
The story seems a bit weak and appears to be driven by methods like utilizing lesig in mxo. am I wrong? What put me off was that I was unable to participate in a majority of them.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Tbone on January 15, 2011, 09:54:26 am
http://pc.ign.com/articles/114/1143429p1.html
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 15, 2011, 10:38:54 am
I had to wait over 20 minutes to login. I have never had to do that before, not even with MxO...
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Tecknik on January 16, 2011, 09:09:23 am
Quote from: "Subb"
Wow. Whoever said that Beta was 'the final product' was wrong:
There are some minor graphical tweeks for the better, new VO for Heroes (not checked Villains yet); the Flash has a new voice (God his VO was shit in Beta) for starters.
New animations and abilities (for brawling and fire; the ones I've used so far). Combat seems a bit more fluid, but I've had one or two bugs.
I've experienced NO lag at all despite there being only two EU serves with high populations.
The apparel system (in game, not character creation) has been changed so you can have vanity slots etc. and change your apparel/skin colour in game via the menus.
So far, I'm impressed with the end product.
Almost everything you listed was added towards the end of Beta. :P There was a 2GB patch about a week before the end.
Even at the end of beta, I still felt this was a broken game. But then again, it's SOE so I'm not surprised. For those that don't know, Beta ended about a week before release. The game needed more time in Beta/Development.
I was on PC World 3 (PvE) and PC World 4 (PvP), and reached the level 20 cap on both. The game seemed unbalanced. The skill sets were weak and needed to be completely done over, in my opinion.
The game was fun to play, but not something I would pay a $15 monthly subscription for. Not until it's completely reworked, anyways. :D
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 16, 2011, 06:04:56 pm
Who is all playing this? Played for a little bit at a friend's house today. Pretty not bad.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 17, 2011, 03:18:49 am
I'm on the EU servers, think Eroz said he's picking it up soon or something.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Tbone on January 20, 2011, 01:05:34 pm
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: JazzyC on January 20, 2011, 01:52:23 pm
So in an attempt to accommodate the console users, they've neglected the PC? I shouldn't be surprised, just disappointed perhaps.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 21, 2011, 10:14:00 am
I've been sick yesterday and today so I've gotten a chance to play a little.
At lvl 6 and so far it's really cool. I'm still trying to understand my "class" I might switch. I went with a villain sorcerer with circi as a mentor. The sorcery trees seem really weird but I'll play with them. I wanted something that would be a really good healer but until I know more about how healing works I'll just mess around more.
There were a couple bugs but nothin big. In the character creation there are tons of hair options but it seems like there will be 5 names for the exact same hair style. I dunno if they are just place holders or what. Also I was doing the quest chain that takes you to Doctor Fate where you fight next to Brother blood. It took me a few times to near him. One of the times doctor fate just vanished and never came back. I had to restate the game. Odd but nothing major.
I will say that the questing is awesome. There's a bit of kill 10 this collect 20 that but I really enjoy missions/quests so far.
The story is rad and is total fan service to comic book fans. The animated comic sequences, cg movie bits and voice acting (most of the time) is really well done. The game is very much story detailed so far. Hopefully it keeps that feeling through the game.
:)
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 21, 2011, 01:40:56 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
I don't agree with a lot of what he says here. The only one that I agree with really is how the UI feels so clunky on the PC. It's very obvious that it was made to be console accessible. It's not HORRIBLE but still, not as good as others. Aside from that, I like the way quests or missions are done so far.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 21, 2011, 03:26:51 pm
Quote from: "likwidtek"
Quote from: "Tbone"
I don't agree with a lot of what he says here. The only one that I agree with really is how the UI feels so clunky on the PC. It's very obvious that it was made to be console accessible. It's not HORRIBLE but still, not as good as others. Aside from that, I like the way quests or missions are done so far.
The later quests are SO much better than the early ones:
*Solving the Riddlers puzzles so you can get to him quickly to stop Deathstroke from assassinating him was amazing. *Disguising yourself as the undead to stop Black Adam from rising Isis was good too.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 21, 2011, 04:49:27 pm
I'm having a lot of fun with this game. Seriously I dunno why you guys are so against it. Man talk about right up our alley too... Urban city sprawl with awesome powers. Seriously the PVP server I'm on too, god we would dominate.
I made a villain but it was very FA inspired. All dark angel n stuff. Heh. I got the dual pistols and am tearing it up. I think this would be a fun filler game for us while we wait for star wars!
(http://i.imgur.com/1hrbf.jpg)
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 23, 2011, 11:37:45 pm
Hey is Venlar still in FA? I saw a Venlar dressed in FA garb with wings in DCUO on the blood and glory server
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Venlar on January 24, 2011, 02:49:42 pm
Quote from: "likwidtek"
Hey is Venlar still in FA? I saw a Venlar dressed in FA garb with wings in DCUO on the blood and glory server
Yup I'm still here lol.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 24, 2011, 03:04:27 pm
I was worried you wouldn't recognize my name and try and battle me. Heh! Dude screenshot your dude and upload it here. Your outfit was awesome. I went for the dark angel approach (without the wings though).
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Eroz on January 24, 2011, 08:47:00 pm
I have a toon (Sivir) on Death and Glory, but I have really played her yet.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 24, 2011, 09:53:43 pm
When good angels go bad.
(http://i.imgur.com/uC8Q8.jpg)
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 25, 2011, 04:13:48 am
I have my toon 'Arkangel' (FA AHOY!) on the Brightest Day server. It's an EU server, so I'll create a villain on one of your US servers to join when I've done a few end game stuff. I'm level 26 so it isn't TOO far away now.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Manic Velocity on January 25, 2011, 06:27:42 pm
Quote from: "likwidtek"
When good angels go bad.
(http://I.imgur.com/uC8Q8.jpg)
I'm sorry to say this, but that looks like something Kayda would have created. Reminds me of his "Black Widow" character from MxO.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: ArchNemesis on January 25, 2011, 07:37:22 pm
Quote from: "ManicVelocity"
I'm sorry to say this, but that looks like something Kayda would have created. Reminds me of his "Black Widow" character from MxO.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought that.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Keeloth on January 25, 2011, 08:03:11 pm
Kayda?
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: XxUnforgivenxX on January 25, 2011, 09:00:14 pm
Another mXo player Reference.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Ghisteslwchlohm on January 26, 2011, 01:01:43 am
Man Likwid, you really gotta reduce the size of images before you post them.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Manic Velocity on January 26, 2011, 08:07:37 am
Quote from: "Keeloth"
Kayda?
A former FA member who took his Mary Sue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue) RP way too seriously, to the point that it was detrimental to the faction's image.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Lithium on January 26, 2011, 08:16:20 am
I'm moving this topic to a private member only forum.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 26, 2011, 10:26:55 am
Don't know who Kayda is. I rolled a villain in this game, so I wanted something villainy. I think it's rad. I only added the wings for the screen shot and took them off afterwards. I like just the black trench / mask / pistols. That's cool if you don't like it but don't insinuate that I've somehow tarnished FA's image by making a toon that has nothing to do with FA. That's a smidge ridiculous.
If you guys were playing this game I'd roll with you guys... but in the meantime, I'm having fun being a baddy.
Speaking of which, if any of you are on blood and glory and are on the villain team, two of my friends from LANcamp are Devs at SOE for the game and we have a small League that's open to anyone who wants to join. Grab me in game for an invite. No one playing is super duper hard core though. Very casual and once SWTOR comes out most of us, (At least I am for sure) will be jumping ship.
Fun way to pass the time tho. :)
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Manic Velocity on January 26, 2011, 01:10:17 pm
Sorry if it sounded insulting. It was entirely intended as a jab at Kayda. I was merely commenting on the similarities between your character and Kayda's.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: likwidtek on January 26, 2011, 01:44:21 pm
Word. :)
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Subb on January 26, 2011, 06:26:34 pm
Likwid, I'll create a character as soon as I'm end-game contented on your server and join for some superhero goodness.
Title: DCUO VS SWTOR
Post by: Venlar on January 26, 2011, 07:52:12 pm