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FA Discussion => Off Topic => Topic started by: Tbone on November 27, 2006, 11:14:37 pm

Title: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 27, 2006, 11:14:37 pm
So besides the fact that I consider getting my computer to only bluescreen once every three or four days now a major victory, the memory card to my cell phone is now on the fritz. I had been taking pictures with my cell sporatically for the last few months, and last night I finally got around to organizing them (using Nokia PC Suite). I had just about renamed all the files and was going to move them onto my computer when I got the error "The operation cannot be completed".

Well, I exit out of the file manager and try to exit out of the memory card on the phone, and it's staying blank. Eventually I have to turn the phone off, and when I turn it back on I've lost everything on the memory card - pictures, ringtones, etc. I browse to the memory card via "Gallery" and it's showing 0.0kb or whatever. I try to access it and it says the card is not formatted and asks me if I would like to. If I say yes, it says it is going to wipe all the data, so I cancel.

So here's my question. Can I fix my MMC card without having to wipe the data? I only have access to my phone/memory card from my computer via bluetooth connection. Most "memory restore" software I've found won't work through a bluetooth connection. Any suggestions?
Title: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Da6onet on November 27, 2006, 11:22:09 pm
well better than my problem, my phone's memory is full, even though i deleted everything off of it :-/
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2006, 11:23:01 pm
Other than that sucks : / I really wish I could help man.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2006, 02:55:43 am
Try wiping the connectors with a soft lint-free non-static cloth
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Ketamininja on November 28, 2006, 09:05:11 am
Ok, the table of contents seems to have died.
Quite a common thing for USB connectable devices - for example if you simply remove a USB pen from a machine without "safely removing", then it can lose the table. Now I know this isn't strictly USB, but the connection type is similar, in terms of architecture.

What you need is some sort of recovery software. Although the tables are gone, the data should still be there.

OnTrack Data Recovery is great recover tool, and I think it's 30 days free. Get in touch with me if you can't find a free trial copy.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Avzeke (Khr0n1k) on November 28, 2006, 11:36:09 am
Quote from: "Ketamininja"
OnTrack Data Recovery is great recover tool, and I think it's 30 days free. Get in touch with me if you can't find a free trial copy.
Good luck!



Mwhahhahahahaha!
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 28, 2006, 02:09:35 pm
Does this OnTrack thing work over a bluetooth connection? For instance, if I connected to my phone via bluetooth, would I be able to use the program to access the memory card on my phone? Right now the memory card doesn't even show up on the browser when I connect to the phone.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2006, 02:20:03 pm
Do use Bluetooth Serial Port?
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Ketamininja on November 28, 2006, 02:25:40 pm
It works on any drive letter.
Sorry, I was thinking that you were inserting the card into a reader, rather than IR/BT.
If those methods show up as drive letters (which I don't think they do), bor if you can map them to a letter (never tried), then it might work....

The chances got smaller, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 28, 2006, 02:44:39 pm
Found the program, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get it to scan and attempt to recover from my phone connected via the PC Suite Bluetooth. It just tries to recover from partitions on the computer.

Yeah, when I try to map a network drive, it only lets me search the things found on My Network Places and not My Bluetooth Places...
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 28, 2006, 07:56:26 pm
Hah, silly me. Turns out this computer has an MMC drive. lol. Your program is showing the drive is empty, though:

Floppy Disk A: [512 Bytes]
Unidentified [0 Bytes]

Does this mean the whole card has already been wiped? I never formatted :(
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Avzeke (Khr0n1k) on November 28, 2006, 08:11:47 pm
uh ohh, that just might be what that means.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 28, 2006, 08:17:12 pm
Why would it just wipe itself completely like that? It's like it auto-reset'ed or something.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 28, 2006, 10:08:28 pm
I went ahead and formatted, and now anything that I put on the memory card on my phone shows up as "file type not supported".

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Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 29, 2006, 12:06:45 am
AND I just broke my bluetooth dongle...

...

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Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2006, 12:55:00 am
Okay that's it T, we're taking your computer away from you.  You obviously can't be trusted.  We'll leave you with a Speak 'n Spell or an Etch-a-sketch.  You choose.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2006, 05:17:23 am
/target Tbone
/orangutan
/slap
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Ash on November 29, 2006, 08:46:49 am
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Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Ketamininja on November 29, 2006, 11:23:23 am
Yeah, the chip probably wasn't formatted to a type that Windows could replicate (copyright of the "file system" being the first block I would think). There is probably a program available that can format it correctly, but you would have to have phone model nums or something at the ready when searching.

How did it wipe? RAM can show you how vulnerable data is. You get ECC RAM in servers (error checking and control or something). This basically stops normal errors from occurring. For example, it is said that radiation from the SUN will at least change a 0 to a 1 or vice-versa in your [regular] RAM about once a month. Could cause a BSOD if it changes a critical byte.

A bit extreme for the loss of your data perhaps, but an example that it can be flakey, even if it's good.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 29, 2006, 10:05:22 pm
It would be my luck that some weird radaition fries my critical 0.

I tried formatting the MMC on both my phone and on my computer. When I bought it from the store, I just had to put it in my phone and boot it up - wasn't complicated at all. I didn't buy it through my phone vendor or anything. I guess I just need to continue doing research. I'm pretty sure my data is gone, as I'm formatted a dozen times now.

Oh, and as for my bluetooth dongle, it was a flimsy piece of iogear shit. Plugged right into USB but stuck out of my computer like an awkward appendage. On my old computer, I ran into it and kinda bent it a little, so in order to get it to stay connected, I had to kinda jiggle it just right. It finally just fell apart from all the pushing and pulling to find its sweet spot where it would connect. More money down the drain...
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Ketamininja on November 30, 2006, 11:50:04 am
Yeah, the chip would have been formatted correctly when you bought.
A bit like NTFS/FAT32/FAT/HPFS... I would put money on a special FS on the chip, but never been interested in phones at the mo, so don't have much knowledge!
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 30, 2006, 12:52:15 pm
Well, I made sure I formatted it in FAT, not FAT32. Thing is, the chip is accessible in the phone (it will save files to it and I can browse it), but as before I was able to read media right off the chip, now it treats everything as unreadable.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2006, 02:38:57 pm
so what your saying is you need a new pic of me for your phone :)
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on November 30, 2006, 05:32:45 pm
Oh no, I saved that to my computer LONG ago. Er...I mean...yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on January 25, 2007, 03:49:16 am
To update...

Bluescreen Error: After much googling, I came across a thread of mass amounts of people having Memory Parity errors from recent Dell laptops. Many of them had the exact same video card as me, and it was discovered that some people could correct the problem by switching out Dell's Nvidia driver for the driver on the Nvidia site. I did this and have not had a bluescreen since! Let's hope I didn't jinx it.

MMC: I never resolved this issue. I basically had to buy a new one and say goodbye to my old pics. It was just dead.

Bluetooth Dongle: Bought a bluetooth notebook card thingy so no more awkward USB sticky-outy-thingy.


Only Issues Remaining: I still get disconnected from Teamspeak about once every hour or two. Every now and then my wireless card will disable itself and I'll have to restart to re-enable it. This happens on different networks, so it's definitely me, not the router/etc.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2007, 07:03:37 am
Network card driver issue?  Or maybe power to the card... sounds very odd.  I've never seen a network card disable itself at random.  Is it an Intel card?  Are you using their own software?
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on January 25, 2007, 12:50:03 pm
Intl PROSet Wireless. Yeah, default came with comp.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Lithium on January 25, 2007, 03:13:51 pm
My Dell developed the Intel Core Duo High Pitched Noise

http://forum.rightmark.org/topic.cgi?id=6:852

Fucking never bought intel for years and I broke my own rule.

At least the right mark program silences it a little bit but I can still hear if I listen for it.
(It has something to do with a problem in the core duo idling something...)
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Ash on January 25, 2007, 06:51:37 pm
Hey T, try removing the wireless software that dell provided to manage you wifi and let windows do (no supurflous software)  also try disabling your LAN connection (sometimes there can be interference)
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Tbone on January 25, 2007, 11:12:07 pm
Interesting. I have core duo and I don't have that problem. Core Duo does seem to be the common thread among the bluescreens.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2007, 03:03:26 am
I've never managed to get the PROSet software running on my Centrino (Sony) notebook, it just totally fd up.  Steve uses it on his though (Samsung) and gets a better signal and improved reliability.  Seems to vary by manufacturer
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Lithium on January 26, 2007, 09:11:52 am
Core Duo == Crap == Intel
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Avzeke (Khr0n1k) on January 27, 2007, 04:26:42 pm
Well I have Core 2 Duo on my Alienware Laptop, no problems as of yet.
Title: Re: Technology Hates Me
Post by: Lithium on January 27, 2007, 04:45:53 pm
and you probably won't. It's just my curse.
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