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Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on January 23, 2006, 07:54:56 pm
Please post all evidence leading to Brewko violating his agreement to Sony in this thread. This evidence will be gathered and organized and sent to Brewko's superiors.

(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4460/csrbrewkoe32dwgc0.jpg)
Contacts:

MXOaccountstatus@soe.sony.com

sminami@soe.sony.com
Satao Minami, said to be Brewko's supervisor.

Minami, Satao : sminami@soe.sony.com
Customer Service Manager

Scotto, George : gscotto@soe.sony.com : 1-858-577-3327
Customer Service Vice President

Olivia Skelly : oskelly@soe.sony.com
Lead GM Pugigi

Ryan Robinson : rrobinson@soe.sony.com
Lead GM Altazar
John Smedley
858-577-3100
When the machine answers choose option 2 for the company directory then at the next prompt you will be asked to enter the three digits or letter for the person you wish to speak to… instead enter the numbers 7633 from your phone and you will be connected directly to John Smedley’s office.
If by the time you try this his line is closed or changed, never fear, just dial the original number and speak to all the SOE employees you can
Don’t forget to use the original phone number to punch in different digits for other contact in SOE.. by doing that you can get personal cell phone numbers like this one of one SOE employee:

858-722-4873


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Issue #1

CSR Brewko violated three users' privacy by compromising their information with Sony. Orien, Broin, and RXU each sent in CCR petitions that pointed out several players who were suspected of exploiting. Brewko informed the players under investigation that Orien, Broin, and RXU had reported them.


Issue #2

CSR Brewko has not acted in a professional manner, specifically treating players differently, using a biased point of view when making decisions.

Example A - When tickets were sent in regarding suspicious levelling of certain players, Brewko came to those players and warned them that OTHER CSRs were beginning to watch their gameplay. He warned them that they should hide any exploits or there was a possibility they would be caught.

Example B - CSR Brewko has created a player account on the Vector server of MxO and has formed friends and enemies from that experience.


Issue #3

CSR Brewko has used his position's power inappropriately to help/hurt players in an unfair way.

Example A - When said exploiters were caught, Brewko deleted the characters and banned known accounts. After the heat was off, Brewko came back and unbanned the accounts of players he had established a "relationship" with.

Example B - Brewko used his CSR power to help a friend retrieve an item from another player. Untouchable (originator of discussed exploit) willingly traded a rare item with Broin. Untouchable wanted said item back, and Broin did not trade the item back. Untouchable then contacted his friend Brewko, who told Broin he would be banned unless said item was given to him to give to Untouchable. This is out of the bounds of CSR involvement, as explained by CSR ?

Issue #4

CSR Brewko conspired with players to entrap other players.

Brewko agreed to a plan set by certain players to help get rid of other players. In this plan, the trap was to provoke a group of players (while Brewko watched) to get them to harrass back. I believe the intent was to give reason to ban said players, who happen to be some of the same players who reported the previously mentioned exploit and have been targetted by Brewko in past offenses.

Issue #5

CSR Brewko joined a player faction under an alternate account and used his admin powers to aid that faction against other players.
Evidence

Kable = Untouchable. He was using a friend's account because his was still banned.
http://liquiware.net/tbone/mxoscreens/screenshot_796.jpg
http://liquiware.net/tbone/mxoscreens/screenshot_797.jpg
http://liquiware.net/tbone/mxoscreens/screenshot_799.jpg

The following is an inquiry that was responded to by GM Quill. As you can see, he clearly states that item trades cannot be modified by GMs:
http://liquiware.net/tbone/mxoscreens/Explanation.jpg
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Broin on January 23, 2006, 08:22:26 pm
Please do not prematurley send off or contact SOE before we put it all together
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Avzeke (Khr0n1k) on January 23, 2006, 08:32:54 pm
Wow somebody did thier homework!
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Da6onet on January 23, 2006, 08:45:35 pm
i'm not playing the game until this matter is resolved
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2006, 09:10:19 pm
How will we go about the evidence on Brewko giving out my personal info?
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on January 23, 2006, 09:18:44 pm
But the Olympics!

We need to divide this into specific incidents or allegations. I'll try my best.

Issue #1

CSR Brewko violated three users' privacy by compromising their information with Sony. Orien, Broin, and RXU each sent in CCR petitions that pointed out several players who were suspected of exploiting. Brewko informed the players under investigation that Orien, Broin, and RXU had reported them.

Evidence

#1 Chat log with one of the accused exploiters:


Issue #2

CSR Brewko has not acted in a professional manner, specifically treating players differently, using a biased point of view when making decisions.

Example A - When tickets were sent in regarding suspicious levelling of certain players, Brewko came to those players and warned them that OTHER CSRs were beginning to watch their gameplay. He warned them that they should hide any exploits or there was a possibility they would be caught.

Example B - CSR Brewko has created a player account on the Vector server of MxO and has formed friends and enemies from that experience.

Example C - When said exploiters were caught, Brewko deleted the characters and banned known accounts. After the heat was off, Brewko came back and unbanned the accounts of players he had established a "relationship" with.

Example D - Brewko used his CSR power to help a friend retrieve an item from another player. Untouchable (originator of discussed exploit) willingly traded a rare item with Broin. Untouchable wanted said item back, and Broin did not trade the item back. Untouchable then contacted his friend Brewko, who told Broin he would be banned unless said item was given to him to give to Untouchable. This is out of the bounds of CSR involvement, as explained by CSR ?

Evidence

Example A: Chat log

Example B: Chat log

Example C: ?

Example D: Broin screenshots
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Heironymus on January 23, 2006, 09:25:59 pm
I don't have any evidence.. but Brewko seems like an assbag...

Roadtrip anyone? if T can get cell phone numbers then surely we can get addresses.. in which case we can Google Earth him... and PWN is punk a$$
Anyone agree?
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Da6onet on January 23, 2006, 09:58:14 pm
I am not joking when I say that I have friends and family all over the United States, I have a car, I have loads of free time, I have a couple hundred bucks to blow, and I am very pissed off about all this. I have been trying all night to find a physical address at which these people can be reached. If any of you can find it, I'm going on a road trip.

Dag
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Lithium on January 23, 2006, 10:02:25 pm
If I recall Eroz lives only a hour or less away form them. Or maybe that was Monolith.

SOE-Seattle is only about 15 minutes away from Monolith, so I'm still only about an hour away. But the more I think about it Brewko might not be in Seattle, but can easily be in SOE-Cali or SOE-Texas, or maybe he's not American.....
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Da6onet on January 23, 2006, 10:07:09 pm
Quote from: "Tbone"
But the Olympics!


Ok I exaggerated a bit, I'll keep playing, but that doesn't mean I will be letting this go, I was prepared to let it go because I legitimately thought Brewko was finished after the last shit he pulled. Again, someone gives me an address for this fucker and he gets to meet me my 6'5" 250lbs football/water polo pissed off mode.

Dag
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2006, 10:09:36 pm
Dag is my hero!
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2006, 10:22:53 pm
More evidence.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Sabre824/DuesPWNED.jpg)
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2006, 11:00:10 pm
That is very sicking stuff.  He went into you inventory and took it? That fucking.....I dotn know what else to say i am at a loss for word for this gross misconnducted Brewko has done.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on January 23, 2006, 11:02:06 pm
No, he told Broin he was banned if he did not give it to him.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2006, 11:07:23 pm
OK but still Gross misconnduct.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on January 23, 2006, 11:21:07 pm
Copy of Broin's explanation:

Well lot’s of drama over the past few weeks aye?  As most of you know I’ve been around quite sometime, though if you’re mostly a forum troll you probably haven’t heard much from me.  Anyways to clear up some things quickly, several weeks ago I’m sure many of you were aware of the sudden rise of the mass numbers of new lvl 50 characters, from the various exploits out there.  Well during that time period I spent a lot of time talking to Masta-Dues and finally convinced him to report the disable device exploit, he and his faction were using.  When he did this he asked me to hold onto his mask until things blew over.  I did such with the knowledge that I would give it back to him.  Shortly after that Dues (logged on under Kable) advised me that he had been perma banned from all SOE games, and then stated that he was going to sell the mask for real world cash.  He had a buyer all lined up and the price set.  I advised him I was not going to be part of a EULA violation.  Simply put by giving the mask to a person who had been banned with the knowledge that it was going to be sold (a violation of EULA) would place me in the middle of the violation, a place I was not going to be.  

Shortly after advising Dues of what my take was on this, his accounts all became unbanned…?  But I was still not willing to be part of the EULA violation.  During the time period I had the mask I did not wear it, and was not planning on it.  I debated deleting it but it is a special in game item and I could not justify removing such an item from the community as a whole.  

As you are all aware there have been issues with certain SOE staff members giving out information to The Forsaken about who reported them for exploiting, as well as advising the Forsaken that they were being watched by other CSR’s for exploiting and should lay low.   Tonight I was pulled into the white room and advised by that CSR that if I did not give the mask to the CSR to be given back to Dues that I would be facing a perma-ban from all SOE games.   Without the certainty that I could get myself unbanned as others have, I returned the mask to the CSR who will be returning it to Dues.  

Unlike others I will not waste forum time with massive amounts of screen shots or chat logs of what transpired bewteen me and the CSR or me and Dues/Untochable/TylerDurden /Kable/etc., to prove my point, nor will I break down to hate speech.  Needless to say I have serious questions about the quality of CSR interaction and decision making process that they take against various players.  

I hesitate to even post this because we all know where it will go, but for all those who have known me so long and wanted to hear my take there it is.  Of course there is more to all of this but much to much to put on the forums.




Copy of my roleplay "wake up and smell the coffee":

The Matrix is a world of deception - a system of control. In this world it is hard to see past the surface to see what's really there. Motives are hidden behind an unseeable wall of deception. Can we really tell the good from the bad? Does a badge make you just? Does a warrant make you unjust? I feel as though our world is upside-down in a sense of perception versus reality. Perhaps we should look beyond the system and find the Source. I can help you on your journey for Truth. Look around you and you will find the way.
 
 
(OOC: And yes, this is on-topic  )
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Lithium on January 23, 2006, 11:24:11 pm
(http://liquiware.net/images/humor/brewko_mask.gif)
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on January 24, 2006, 01:28:37 am
It appears Brewko was not bluffing: http://mxoboards.station.sony.com/matrix/board/message?board.id=general&message.id=55118#M55118
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Da6onet on January 24, 2006, 05:10:23 am
Ok so I see where the GM's are coming from on this issue, but I also know that they definitely do not have all the facts. That said I deleted my sarcastic ticket (which hadn't been read) and spent a good half hour writing a subdued but poignant ticket spelling out what needs to be addressed and a suggestion on what needs to be done. I also added Quill to my buddy list. He can be added via

/friend Recursion.CSR_QUILL_RECURSION

Like with any csr, he won't appear online, but you can still send /tells to him when he is in game. it's now nearly sunrise and aside from being exhausted, I feel i can finally go to bed.

dag
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Avzeke (Khr0n1k) on January 24, 2006, 01:36:59 pm
you can probley put vector in place of recursion and that will work too since im sure they have a char on all serv at least i have seen SS of Brewko on other servers.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Lithium on January 24, 2006, 01:44:40 pm
Ok so I received some more info. However it is all hearsay but worth a mention.

Brewko did return the mask today. Soon after untouchable came to Mara Central to purposfully intimidate us. Of course it failed. However they did this knowing that brewko would be watching them. They told brewko to follow them and see what we say. They purposfully tried to set us up and brewko went along with it.

Now is that great CSRing or what.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Da6onet on January 24, 2006, 03:30:48 pm
Justero confirmed that Brewko was watching, so I said "hold up, I'm reading Brewko's apology to me" in regards to the awning "exploit" that Brewko told Justero is no longer an exploit.

Justero then went on to say what a great GM Brewko was and that he did not have to apologize to me. (he didn't actually apologize to me) But if Brewko was watching, I'm sure I confused the hell out of him.

Again, I'm still looking for a street address on SOE's seattle office.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Manic Velocity on January 24, 2006, 04:36:44 pm
Did anybody get screenshots/chatlogs of Brewko's appearance?
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on January 24, 2006, 04:38:43 pm
Yeah, this needs to be confirmed. I'm adding it to the list of issues. lol
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Lithium on January 24, 2006, 07:29:26 pm
We he didn't appear but he was probably ghosting and waiting for us to fuck up. But of course we didn't. Fucking cat-mouse game.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Heironymus on January 24, 2006, 08:35:35 pm
I want to apologize in advance.. but after reading all 13 pages of the thread that was left... I had to comment... I tried to refrain myself... you decide if I was inappropriate...
http://mxoboards.station.sony.com/matrix/board/message?board.id=vectorgeneral&message.id=41625&view=by_date_ascending&page=13
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2006, 10:41:44 pm
Don't feed him, he thrives on logical posts and dumbs them down with poor spelling and misspelling thieves for the millionth time.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on January 24, 2006, 10:59:27 pm
Yeah, please refrain from posting. We've dealt with situations like this many times before, and we've found the best method is to simply ignore it. Any attempt to argue only gives validity to whatever point they are trying to make. The responses you will see are things like:

"haha FA got pwned"

"looks like FAs whining cuz they didnt get thier way lolz"

It does not matter what you post - it will not help. I've posted cryptic messages twice mostly to get people to click on my sig and check out the Brewko issue.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Broin on January 24, 2006, 11:29:15 pm
Yeah man I can see maybe the first post but your taking it to far... In other words don't make me hunt you down  :D
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Styan on January 24, 2006, 11:35:56 pm
Or Dago for that matter... he seems to be in more of a head hunting mood than Broin :P
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2006, 01:10:34 am
Sorry, I don't have the Address for the Seattle Office...but how about extremely precise longitudinal and latitudinal information?

47.629768,-122.325897 (Sony Online Entertainment - Seattle)

w00t!

It's off of Lakeview Blvd. in downtown Seattle Washington.

Go here: http://www.communitywalk.com/map/57

Then just look at the list on the right XD

Rec'nize my skill.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Lithium on January 25, 2006, 01:45:55 am
If you switch to satellite over where it says SOE is there is nothing but grass
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2006, 06:59:00 am
Google Earth has Monolith listed at 425 739 1500, or 10516 NE 37th Cir, Kirkland.  Searches for SOE list the same address.  Sony Corporate Accounts are at 425 450 0761, or 1822 100th Ave NE, Bellevue

HTH :p
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2006, 01:55:23 pm
Yes, however, there are news articles that state that Sony Online Entertainment Seattle came into existence because of the seizure of MxO. They basically converted Lith's studio there into SOE.
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2006, 03:18:23 pm
They're pretty close to each other (the old Lith building and SOE Accounts), I'd say it's safe to assume that's the place.  Don't CSRs work from home though?
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2006, 03:48:46 pm
They could Destyn but What whould you think if about 20 poeple showed up at your office build dressed in White to protest someone working for them?
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Styan on January 26, 2006, 12:18:59 am
No evidence here... however perhaps Brewko is persuading people to post to get certain control over things in the game... I don't think SOE will likely ever support this however its worth a look.

http://mxoboards.station.sony.com/matrix/board/message?board.id=soe&message.id=547
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 03:35:45 am
Quote from: "Rorin"
They could Destyn but What whould you think if about 20 poeple showed up at your office build dressed in White to protest someone working for them?


Happens to me all the time, but once they give me my medication I'm usually okay :p
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Da6onet on March 11, 2006, 08:23:36 am
So it's known that ML are not to be trusted, this adds to both cases of distrust I feel

Here (http://mxoboards.station.sony.com/matrix/board/message?board.id=vectorgeneral&message.id=52992#M52992)
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 10:20:41 am
Brewko broke up a party on Recursion in Club Hel saying it was an exploit.

http://mxoboards.station.sony.com/matrix/board/message?board.id=generalrecursion&message.id=30782&view=by_date_ascending&page=2
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 10:59:21 am
they don't fuckin care, you're just going to be told to ccr, some of which he's probably intercepting..
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on November 08, 2006, 12:41:07 am
Necro'd for more Brewko madness: http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300005596
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Da6onet on November 08, 2006, 12:53:45 am
Daniel Benter in the flesh
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4460/csrbrewkoe32dwgc0.jpg)
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Tbone on November 08, 2006, 01:01:08 am
Haha, I'm going to add that in the first post!
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Adad on November 08, 2006, 11:40:13 pm
Oh, my God...that's his stupid ass?
Title: Official Brewko Evidence Thread
Post by: Subb on November 09, 2006, 05:45:53 am
BOOM HEADSHOT! >.<

*takes mental picture*
*packs shotgun*
*hides in a suitcase*
*Arrives at Seattle*
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